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Re:Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2004, 02:37:20 PM »
Question for you on the cracker crust. Did you use the whole dough ball or break it into separate sizes and what size pizza were you making to what ratio of dough?

Also on Tom's recipe did you in fact used compressed yeast or did You substitute dry for it. By compressed yeast I am guessing that it is the brick of yeast?
Thanx in advance

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Re:Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2004, 03:46:42 PM »
Makes one pizza Mike.  16" Roll it out to about 1/8" which will be about 2" wider than a 16" pan.

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Re:Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2004, 05:14:07 PM »
Like Randy said, it makes one 16" pizza. Roll it out thin so that the dough is about 1/16" thick and when placed in a cutter pan the dough overlaps the pan by about 1" all the way around. Use a rolling pin to trim off the excess (hence the term "cutter pan").
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Re:Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2004, 05:34:14 PM »
Cool Beans   Thanx

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2007, 01:23:10 AM »
I made the most awesome thin "cracker" crust pizza tonight using DKM's recipe!

Thank you, thank you, thank you DKM!!!   :-*

Here's the recipe:

1 pound bread flour (Sam's Club "Bakers and Chefs bread flour")
2/3 cup warm water
1 Tbsp. vegetable oil
1 1/2 tsp. active dry yeast
1 tsp. salt
1 tsp. sugar

Using a KitchenAid stand mixer fitted with a dough hook, add water to the mixing bowl and add yeast. Run mixer for several minutes to dissolve yeast. Meanwhile, in another mixing bowl, mix flour, sugar and salt. After yeast is dissolved, add flour mixture to water and set mixer to speed "2". Run mixer for about 10 minutes using a rubber spatula to scrape any dry flour from side of mixing bowl into the path of the dough hook. After 10 minutes, add vegetable oil and mix for 2 additional minutes using spatula to keep everything in the path of the dough hook. When finished, the dough will appear very scrappy and rough. Pick up the dough scraps and press them into a ball by squeezing them together with your hands. Place dough into a plastic bucket, seal, and and allow to rise at room temperature for 24 hours.

When ready to make pizza, turn dough out onto floured work surface. Using a large rolling pin, roll dough out very thin. Drape dough over an oiled cutter pan, press into place, and trim off excess with the rolling pin. Dock the dough, add sauce, cheese, and toppings. Bake at 500 degrees F. on the lowest rack in the oven (the cutter pan should only be inches from the heating element). I open the oven door frequently to allow the heat to escape... this causes the thermostat to kick on which keeps the bottom heating element on. This superheats the pan making the crust cook and become crispy. When the bottom is golden brown and crisp, remove from oven. Slide pizza out of pan onto a wire cooling rack. Allow to cool 5 to 10 minutes before placing in a serving tray and slicing.

Note: Use low-moisture part-skim mozzerella cheese. I use Stella brand which is available from Sam's Club. For the sauce, use my thin-crust sauce found on the main website .

Thank you DKM!!!!  ;D
Check out tonight's pizza:

That pizza slice loks awesome!!!

Steve I cant find that pizza sauce recipe, can you please provide me the link? thankyou!

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2007, 04:11:38 AM »
I cant find that pizza sauce recipe, can you please provide me the link? 

ninya,

I believe it is the one posted here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/thincrust.php.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2007, 12:09:05 AM »
Need some help here. Wanting to make the DKM dough up and not sure what everybody is doing now for the rise, Counter or fridge, and how many hrs? Can you do either or? Seems there's posts on both. I know if in the fridge you would want to go for a longer cold ferment than the counter rise warm. What's the skinny these days on the cracker crust dough rise? What's everbody doing? Thanks, Bryan  ;)
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« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2007, 06:02:48 AM »
Bryan. for sure on the counter and up to 32 hrs.  In the cooler is really not an option for this recipe although you could mix it up, then to the cooler and then an 18hr to 24 rise on the counter.  I usually make my dough the afternoon before so it goes a little over 24 hrs. I now, I now, you are thinking, Dude are you sure about on the counter.  Yes that is the secret to the flavor.

 It is also very important to bloom(proof some say) the yeast for 5 minutes before adding to the mix even if you use instant yeast.  As I wrote, this is not a proofing process as much as it is a blooming.

I was a skeptic at first but I now make DKM's cracker crust more than I make my own American style.  I have made a bunch of these. 

Get ready, rolling it out will give you a good workout.  If you use just a little four on the surface you roll it on it will stick a little so it want pop back as if it were a rubber band as bad.
Maybe DKM will add a bit more

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2007, 07:40:37 PM »
Randy, What threw me off was i looked at the OP Steve, his recipe and read about DKM helping him and thought that it was the DKM recipe only to find out it wasn't, then I found the Pizza Inn DKM cracker crust recipe. Then on page 4 the OP Steve posts a Chicago cracker crust recipe by TL and even sober I can't find that recipe when clicking on recipes from the home page. I was sucking some suds back last night which contributed to my confusion. It's all clear to me now, except for where that TL Chicago cracker crust recipe is hiding at. Thanks much.   8)
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2007, 09:12:37 PM »
Bryan,

I think the Tom Lehmann cracker crust recipe you are looking for is the one given here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/lehmann_crackerstyle.php. It's the same recipe given at the PMQ.com Recipe Bank.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2007, 09:19:01 PM »
Bryan,

I think the Tom Lehmann cracker crust recipe you are looking for is the one given here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/lehmann_crackerstyle.php. It's the same recipe given at the PMQ.com Recipe Bank.

Peter
Peter, Do you use the butter in it? I love butter so I know I'll be putting it in.  ;D
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2007, 09:25:30 PM »
Peter, Do you use the butter in it? I love butter so I know I'll be putting it in.  ;D

Bryan,

I don't recall trying out that recipe. Not too long ago, I played around with Tom's cracker crust dough recipe that uses baking soda. However, I once did make a deep-dish crust that was formed by layering several sheets and placing dabs of butter between the sheets. It was quite good.

Peter

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2007, 09:28:25 PM »
Bryan,

I don't recall trying out that recipe. Not too long ago, I played around with Tom's cracker crust dough recipe that uses baking soda. However, I once did make a deep-dish crust that was formed by layering several sheets and placing dabs of butter between the sheets. It was quite good.

Peter
Peter, My bad, I miss read your post. I read it as "I like" instead of "I think" so that's why I thought you made it. I'll stick with the DKM cracker recipe that everyone raves about. Thanks much.  8)
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2007, 03:48:58 AM »
I just found this recipe now after I made another cracker crust that I found on this site last week...
BUT the one from last week said to let it sit in the fridge for min. 24hrs.  this on is out...and now I
see that the one I made looks like your photos..and I thought that was wrong (too dry) but mine came
out great tasting.  I make mine on a pizza stone though...I might go and look for a round pan...love the
original look...OH----instead of vegetable oil, can you use olive oil - I did last week cuz my vege. was bad.
What temp. should the water be please?

Whoever wrote about the pizza in the chgo suburbs...I live in So.Cal. but am from Chgo and when we go back
the first place we go to is Nick's in Crystal Lake or the new location in, I think, either West Dundee or Elgin-give me more
think crust restaurants in the Chgo area...my fav. deep dish is Lou Malnati's....I want to try that recipe I got on this site, but I
don;t yet have a deep pan...any suggestions where to get one?  I love the 'clip on' handle for the pan at Lou;s.
thanks

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2007, 04:01:56 AM »
Nobody lets the dough rise in a warming drawer?

My last recipe said letting it in the fridge for 24hrs. will prevent it from shrinking...
Will 12 hrs. out on the counter also do that?  My previuos dough shrunk terribly.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2008, 07:47:51 PM »
Hello All,

Sorry to revive this thread,  but it looks intruiging from the standpoint of using a preferment instead of commercial yeast, and maybe an autolyse to help hydration and gluten formation? Any Culture Club members tried this?
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #91 on: June 06, 2008, 07:51:21 PM »
Duh,
Apparently one too many rum an cokes already! Autolyse with a dough this dry? What was I thinking :-D
Still, the preferment is intriguing.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #92 on: June 06, 2008, 08:52:43 PM »
Autolyse with a dough this dry? What was I thinking :-D
Still, the preferment is intriguing.

Jim,

I don't think that using autolyse or similar rest periods for a low-hydration dough is all that farfetched. Arguably, getting more complete hydration may be more important with a low-hydration dough than a high-hydration dough. In fact, I have used such rest periods to improve the hydration of the flour for a cracker-style dough (a version based on DKM's dough recipe). See, for example, Reply 8 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5762.msg49042.html#msg49042. In some cases, the rest periods can also work to reduce the kneading of the dough and minimize overworking the gluten such that it becomes difficult to roll out the dough. I have also sifted the flour to improve its hydration in low-hydration doughs.

I have also used a natural preferment successfully with cracker-style doughs (see, for example, http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,5594.0.html) but I have found that commercial yeast is much easier and more convenient to use, preferably at rather high levels. The high amount of yeast, along with a long fermentation, often at room temperature, combine to produce a nice flavor profile in the finished crust. I tried the natural preferment approach mainly to satisfy myself that it could be done.

Peter
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2008, 09:41:16 PM »
Here are my results from the experitment using Pete-zaa previous post recipe with a highly active Ischia starter and an autotyle during the mix. Excellent ;D sorry I don't have pix, I could not downsize small enough to post. The crust was extremely crispy, but I wouldn't call it cracker style as there were no big voids in the crust. The  best part was the flavor, very buttery and light, with good crunch!

I followed Pete's recipe except I used an autolyse by adding KABF until it made a stiff batter and let rest for 20 min. Mixed 5 min more as in Jeff V recipe. Then I SLOWLY added the rest of the flour and mixed another 5 min. divided up into 4 balls and made 1 after 24 hr. bench rise. It was the best. The other 3 I put into the fridge for a slow rise, oddly enough, they did not  have the buttery flavor of the the bench rose one. I'll try this again to see if I get the same results because I ame a little confused by the flavor profile results with the later doughs.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2009, 04:15:42 AM »
ninya,

I believe it is the one posted here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/thincrust.php.

Peter
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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2009, 05:15:26 AM »
Why why why why do I come on here and look at the pictures, when all it does is make me hungry?! Looks good.  ;D

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #96 on: October 05, 2012, 04:51:52 PM »
Giving it a go... have a good feeling about this batch.... looking forward to seeing it in 24 hours.

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« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2013, 12:19:22 AM »
So I am planning on starting this crust tomorrow and am looking for recommendations on oven setting and supplies.

I am going to the restaurant supply shop tomorrow for a few things and am wondering how to bake this pizza. I have a gas oven.

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #98 on: January 19, 2013, 09:35:41 PM »
So I am planning on starting this crust tomorrow and am looking for recommendations on oven setting and supplies.

I am going to the restaurant supply shop tomorrow for a few things and am wondering how to bake this pizza. I have a gas oven.

Scribble:

Two recommendations based on your request -

1. Set your oven for as high as you can get it to go

2. Set a pizza stone of appropriate size (composition of your choice) in the oven and let it heat up for 50-60 minutes before putting the pizza on it.

Hope it turns out well.   :chef:

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Re: Best ever thin "cracker" crust pizza!
« Reply #99 on: January 20, 2013, 01:07:45 PM »
Sounds good Ernie.
I have a gas oven(heater in broiler drawer)and if you want to avoid the stone heat up deal....
Par-bake the crust in a cutter pan, let it cool out of the pan for 5 min, place back in pan and go to town.  :)
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