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High Temp Countertop Oven
« on: October 21, 2010, 06:47:02 PM »
I purchased this oven a couple of weeks ago from California.  I had it shipped to my US address & it arrived yestersday.  I'm crossing the border this weekend to pick it up.  The upper and lower positions have separate and independent adjustable thermostat control. The bottom of interior is made of ceramic flagstone.

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Rated voltage                208-240V    50/60 Hz
Power                            2.2Kw
Current                          10A
Temperature Range:         20℃-400℃   ( 68 0F - 752 0F )

Exterior dimension:         W665*D690*H355mm  (W26.18 * D27.17*H13.98  in)
Inside  availability:           W410*D460*H108mm  (W16.14  * D18.11  * 4.25  in)





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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 06:49:36 PM »
Very cool Matthew, looking forward to the pizza pics.

Chau

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »
So there is an upper and lower heating element then?
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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 06:54:50 PM »
So there is an upper and lower heating element then?
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Yes

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 07:03:59 PM »
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I'm crossing the border this weekend to pick it up.

Alert the Army, Air Force, Navy & National Guard - The Canadians are coming!!!!!!


Just kidding, Bro   ;D

Looking forward to the pies the oven will turn out. Keep us posted...
Mike

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2010, 07:12:55 PM »

Alert the Army, Air Force, Navy & National Guard - The Canadians are coming!!!!!!


Just kidding, Bro   ;D

Looking forward to the pies the oven will turn out. Keep us posted...

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Ya me too.  It's going in my basement test kitchen.  I have an electrician coming in on Tuesday to install an independent receptacle.  I'm not sure about the cooking surface, worst case scenario I'll replace it with corderite.

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2010, 07:20:49 PM »
:-D 
Ya me too.  It's going in my basement test kitchen.  I have an electrician coming in on Tuesday to install an independent receptacle.  I'm not sure about the cooking surface, worst case scenario I'll replace it with corderite.

Matt

I'm currently looking for a chamotte stone somewhere around here in California. Or anywhere for that matter. I know they are readily available in Europe and I spoke with my mother yesterday, asking her to look into it.

Something similar to what's in the pic.

That stone might be a better option than cordierite

Mike

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 08:09:49 PM »
Pizza lab unit!  I bet the ceramic flagstone will work great. 

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Re: New High Heat Countertop Pizza Oven
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2010, 10:36:45 PM »
Matt, I think you are going to love it.   I have a similar oven, and while it cant quite do super fast neapolitan pizzas, it is amazing at everything else.    One thing I would caution about is that there is a small learning curve with these caused by the fact that the baking space is quite small compared to normal pizza ovens.    What ends up happening is that any pizzas above about 600 degrees you need a much higher top temp than you do a bottom temp to keep the pies cooking evenly.  This type of oven requires some games to get the top heat to stay higher than the bottom, something that happens naturally with a good coal or wood burning oven design.  You would think that this would be taken care of by the independent controls, but the problem is that if you set the top for say 750, and the bottom for 650 the stone is going to go up to 700 during the preheat because of the ambient heat provided by the top element.   The way around this is to let the oven preheat to 625 on both dials, and when its really well warmed up you put the pizza in and turn the top control to 700 immediately.   You will have to wait a little while after pulling the pizza out for the whole oven to get back up to temp, so make sure to turn the top dial back down to 625 after the pizza is pulled out.  Hopefully I just saved you a burned bottom or two. 

Also, I am interested to hear what your top temperature really is.   My oven literature says that 400c (about 750f) is max, but in reality it goes up to 485c (about 900f), so my max bake is with about 800 on the bottom.   Im not sure if this is typical of all of these imported ovens, or if I just got lucky.    Good luck, and report back! 


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Re: New High Heat Countertop Pizza Oven
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2010, 06:21:56 AM »
Thanks alot Scott.  I figured as such & your suggestion is a great starting point.  As soon as I get the power outlet taken care of I'll fire it up & see what kind of numbers it puts out.  What temperature do you normally set it at?

Matt

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Re: New High Heat Countertop Pizza Oven
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2010, 06:24:00 AM »
Peter/Bill:

What happened to the previous replies from this thread????

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Re: New High Heat Countertop Pizza Oven
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2010, 07:18:34 AM »
Peter/Bill:

What happened to the previous replies from this thread????

I found two separate threads which I have now merged.

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 12:46:23 PM »
Scott,
You're not kidding.  In half hour the temp was at 975 & climbing.  The top thermostat had shut off but the bottom was still on.  A few more minutes & I could of easily hit 1000 degrees.  I'm impressed!

Matt

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 01:16:10 PM »
This is great news Matthew.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

Once the bottom hits 900 or so, can you keep the top element on and running? or does it autmatically shut off if the whole unit gets too hot.   

What is the top and bottom max temp on the dial? 

Chau

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 01:25:31 PM »
This is great news Matthew.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

Once the bottom hits 900 or so, can you keep the top element on and running? or does it autmatically shut off if the whole unit gets too hot.   

What is the top and bottom max temp on the dial? 

Chau

There are 2 separate thermostats; top & bottom & both dials go to 400C .  The only way to turn the top element on when you want it to go on is to set it at a lower temperature during the preheat & then crank it once you put the pie in.

Matt


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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2010, 01:31:49 PM »
When do you make pizza?  Can't wait to see your results.  ;D

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 02:09:25 PM »
Man that's exciting!

What is the brand of the unit?  Can't quite make it out in the JPEG. 

Also what's the damage if you don't mind me asking.

I also can't wait to see the first pies.

AZ


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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 02:23:27 PM »
Man that's exciting!

What is the brand of the unit?  Can't quite make it out in the JPEG. 

Also what's the damage if you don't mind me asking.

I also can't wait to see the first pies.

AZ

I picked it up on ebay for $260 + shipping
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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 03:18:51 PM »
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." Leonardo da Vinci

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 05:07:19 PM »
Is 16 inch the maximum size for a pie with that oven?What is the rim/crust sizes you prefer to make your pies at?

Just curious...I really love these ovens.I was browsing the website and checking alot of the other ovens out.
Very well priced for the amount of oven and features you get!

I have yet to see a bakers pride counter top oven this cheap that isn't "used".
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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 05:10:20 PM »
is it this one  ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/COUNTERTOP-PIZZA-OVEN-PD11-A-400-/120636278032?pt=BI_Commercial_Ovens_Ranges&hash=item1c167b8510#ht_2103wt_1141

its a shame i live in Brazil, this product would be great for me !!

Hi Andre,
That's the one.  I had it shipped to my P.O. box in Niagara Falls, NY & then crossed over to pick it up.  It seems to be pretty well insulated.  It has been off for almost 4 hours & the stone temp is still 300F.

Matt

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 05:19:19 PM »
Is 16 inch the maximum size for a pie with that oven?What is the rim/crust sizes you prefer to make your pies at?

Just curious...I really love these ovens.I was browsing the website and checking alot of the other ovens out.
Very well priced for the amount of oven and features you get!

I have yet to see a bakers pride counter top oven this cheap that isn't "used".
 :)

Yes, The inside is just over 16" x 18".  As you may or may not know, I'm into Neapolitan pizza & since I don't use my WFO in the winter I thought this may be a decent substitute.  That being said I think I'm going to mess around with New Haven Style & off course with Neapolitan over the winter.  I'll continue to use my main indoor oven for bread, focaccia, & Sicilian.  Since New Haven style seems to be more oblong than round I will probably go 15 x 17 ish.

Matt

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 05:27:37 PM »
Hi Andre,
That's the one.  I had it shipped to my P.O. box in Niagara Falls, NY & then crossed over to pick it up.  It seems to be pretty well insulated.  It has been off for almost 4 hours & the stone temp is still 300F.

Matt

Did you have anything to DECLARE when crossing the border back?
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Nice to hear about that stone still holding that much temp!
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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 05:35:22 PM »
Did you have anything to DECLARE when crossing the border back?
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Of course.  My wife had a field day.

Matt

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Re: High Temp Countertop Oven
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2010, 05:40:22 PM »
thats cool Matt !! im curious about how the neapolitan pizza will cook...

congrats !!
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