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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 08:30:46 AM »
Jackitup.   Looking good.  I am currently and slowly making my way towards foccacia and ciabatta.   Would love to learn from your process.   What sources have been most helpful to you in these styles?

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 09:40:51 AM »
http://www.cooksillustrated.com/recipes/detail.asp?docid=18765&adminreq=houdinipreview
   

Makes 2 loaves.   Published March 1, 2009.   From Cook's Illustrated.
Two tablespoons of nonfat milk powder can be used in place of the liquid milk; increase the amount of water in the dough to 1 cup. As you make this bread, keep in mind that the dough is wet and very sticky. The key to manipulating it is working quickly and gently; rough handling will result in flat, tough loaves. When possible, use a large rubber spatula or bowl scraper to move the dough. If you have to use your hands, make sure they are well floured. Because the dough is so sticky, it must be prepared in a stand mixer. If you donít have a baking stone, bake the bread on an overturned and preheated rimmed baking sheet set on the lowest oven rack. The bread will keep for up to 2 days, well wrapped and stored at room temperature. To recrisp the crust, place the unwrapped bread in a 450-degree oven for 6 to 8 minutes. The bread will keep frozen for several months wrapped in foil and placed in a large zipper-lock bag. Thaw the bread at room temperature and recrisp using the instructions above.

Ingredients
Biga
1   cup unbleached all-purpose flour (5 ounces)
1/8   teaspoon instant or rapid-rise yeast
1/2   cup water (4 ounces), at room temperature

Dough
2   cups unbleached all-purpose flour (10 ounces)
1/2   teaspoon instant or rapid-rise yeast
1 1/2   teaspoons table salt
3/4   cup water (6 ounces), at room temperature
1/4   cup milk (2 ounces), at room temperature (see note)

Instructions
   1. FOR THE BIGA: Combine flour, yeast, and water in medium bowl and stir with wooden spoon until uniform mass forms, about 1 minute. Cover bowl tightly with plastic wrap and let stand at room temperature (about 70 degrees) overnight (at least 8 hours and up to 24 hours).
   2. FOR THE DOUGH: Place biga and dough ingredients in bowl of stand mixer fitted with paddle attachment. Mix on lowest speed until roughly combined and shaggy dough forms, about 1 minute; scrape down sides of bowl as necessary. Continue mixing on medium-low speed until dough becomes uniform mass that collects on paddle and pulls away from sides of bowl, 4 to 6 minutes. Change to dough hook and knead bread on medium speed until smooth and shiny (dough will be very sticky), about 10 minutes. Transfer dough to large bowl and cover tightly with plastic wrap. Let dough rise at room temperature until doubled in volume, about 1 hour.
   3. Spray rubber spatula or bowl scraper with nonstick cooking spray; fold partially risen dough over itself by gently lifting and folding edge of dough toward middle. Turn bowl 90 degrees; fold again. Turn bowl and fold dough six more times (total of eight turns). Cover with plastic wrap and let rise for 30 minutes. Repeat folding, replace plastic wrap, and let rise until doubled in volume, about 30 minutes longer. Meanwhile, adjust oven rack to lower-middle position, place baking stone on rack, and heat oven to 450 degrees at least 30 minutes before baking.
   4. Cut two 12- by 6-inch pieces of parchment paper and liberally dust with flour. Transfer dough to liberally floured counter, being careful not to deflate completely. Following photos 6 through 9 above, liberally flour top of dough and divide in half. Turn 1 piece of dough so cut side is facing up and dust with flour. With well-floured hands, press dough into rough 12- by 6-inch shape. Fold shorter sides of dough toward center, overlapping them like business letter to form 7- by 4-inch loaf. Repeat with second dough piece. Gently transfer each loaf seam-side down to parchment sheets, dust with flour, and cover with plastic wrap. Let loaves sit at room temperature for 30 minutes (surfaces of loaves will develop small bubbles).
   5. Slide parchment with loaves onto inverted, rimmed baking sheet or pizza peel. Using floured fingertips, evenly poke entire surface of each loaf to form 10- by 6-inch rectangle; spray loaves lightly with water. Carefully slide parchment with loaves onto baking stone using jerking motion. Bake, spraying loaves with water twice more during first 5 minutes of baking time, until crust is deep golden brown and instant-read thermometer inserted into centers of loaves registers 210 degrees, 22 to 27 minutes. Transfer to wire rack, discard parchment, and cool loaves to room temperature, about 1 hour, before slicing and serving.


What I did was this
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2 cups flour
ľ t yeast (IDY)
2.5 cups H2o
Ĺ cup of milk (I used buttermilk)
I mixed all ingredients with a KA hand mixer for about 10 minutes on speed 7 and then covered with plastic overnite 8-24hrs
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Then put biga in KA stand mixer and added:

4 cups flour
3t salt
1t yeast (IDY)

To the biga in the mixer bowl I added all ingredients except 2 cups of flour held back. With paddle attachment I mixed on close to high speed for 10 minutes or so. Then put on S hook and added the other 2 cups of flour. That went for about 20 minutes on speed 2. Put on well oil surface and fold and turn 4-5 times then press out in sheet pan. I topped with drained fire roasted tomatoes (Hunts I think), thin sliced onions, garlic, rosemary, thyme and a lite mix of fresh parm, mozz, Swiss and fontina, salt and fresh ground pepper. I topped while it was rising and let it go a bit more and then baked in a 460 degree oven set on convection roast til brown and Thermopen read about 200 degrees. Let cool and slice. Just awesome! I think that cover most of it.
Jon

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Re: Focaccia/cibatta.......
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 10:01:53 AM »
Wow thank you for the detail post Jon.  I'll study it later today and give it a go.   I'll post my results here.  Thanks again!

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 10:29:47 AM »
The recipe is as you can see from Cooks Illustrated. My version ( the 2nd part "what I did") below is a bit bastardized by adding ALL the liquid to the biga and using buttermilk instead of regular milk. I think also the mixing is a bit different, but it seems simpler to me and I like the results. I use the same deal for ciabatta or focaccia. Very nice toothy bread, it's going to make great sandwiches!!
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 10:35:23 AM »
Awesome Jon, I love basterdizing recipes.  lol.  :chef:

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 01:12:40 PM »
Forgot to mention I used Kyrol, high gluten flour
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see correction!!
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 06:41:30 PM »
Sorry to any I screwed up with the posted recipe. The 1st ingredient under "what I did" is supposed to be 2 cups of four, not h2o. The 2.5 cups of H2o is correct. Was just making a biga tonite for tomorrow and noticed the mistake.....oops.
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