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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #150 on: August 31, 2012, 08:00:21 PM »
Norma,

The Nasonville online store only shows the 1 Year Aged Cheddar in yellow.  Is the white 1 Year Aged Cheddar special order?

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BOARDWALKER,

You need to ask for the 1 year old aged white cheddar.  If you can talk to Julie at the Nasonville cheese store, she is very helpful.  My friend from Trenton did order the white 1 year old aged cheddar last Friday and he received it yesterday.  I tried to order the one year old aged white cheddar on Saturday from the Nasonville cheese store and they were out of it.  You might need to check a few times to see if they have it in stock in their cheese store.

On Monday, I then spoke to someone that deals with pizza businesses.  That is how I got my samples, but I also need to order some more of the one year old white cheddar for more experiments.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #151 on: August 31, 2012, 08:11:11 PM »
Norma,

It might be worth exploring whether the Nasonville yellow cheddar cheese is the same as that used by Mack's but for the color. If so, there should be virtually no difference between the performance and characteristics of the two cheeses.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #152 on: August 31, 2012, 08:38:55 PM »
Norma,

It might be worth exploring whether the Nasonville yellow cheddar cheese is the same as that used by Mack's but for the color. If so, there should be virtually no difference between the performance and characteristics of the two cheeses.

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Peter,

That is a good idea to explore whether Nasonville’s yellow cheddar is exactly the same, except for the color.  I would think it would be though.  I want to place an order for some white 1 year old aged cheddar tomorrow if I find time, but will also place an order for some yellow 1 year old aged cheddar. 

I want to go over to market tomorrow to see how Steve and Bob are doing with their first mobile public operation (at the Arts and Crafts festival), but will try to call Nasonville.  If I can’t get any of the white one year old age cheddar, then I might wait until I can purchase some of both cheddars at the same time.  That wouldn’t be until next Wednesday.   I think it also needs repeating that if someone wants to purchase more than one package of the 1 year old aged cheddar there can be different prices for shipping, as Bill told me. 

I don’t know about other members, but think the Nasonville one year old aged cheddar would be good for other types of pizzas too.  The shipping charges and the cheese prices might be too much for some members though.

I might need to call Bill again to see what he really paid for the 4 packages of cheddar and the shipping charges.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #153 on: August 31, 2012, 10:16:20 PM »
Mark,

I have tried Cracker Barrel cheddar on the boardwalk thread, but can't recall what kind it was.  I know Cracker Barrel cheddar is readily available to most members.  I really don't think I am going to try other aged cheddars, unless Heagy's at market can age me some cheddar. 

If members want to purchase some Nasonville aged one year old cheddar, I think they will be happy with the results.

Norma

Maybe you tried Vermont in the yellow wrapper or Extra Sharp/Extra Sharp-White, both in red wrappers. Aged Reserve in the black wrapper is a little harder to find around here. Likewise the Cracked Black Pepper.

I guess I will have to wait on a Mack's pizza clone until other brands work. Never heard of that brand of cheese, sauce, nor flour here. :chef:

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #154 on: August 31, 2012, 10:31:50 PM »
Orange cheese is officially banned on my pizzas and, as a matter of fact, my entire household as well.  LOL   :)

Where does annato food coloring come from and why was it originally used in cheese?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annatto   ;D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #155 on: August 31, 2012, 10:57:13 PM »
Maybe you tried Vermont in the yellow wrapper or Extra Sharp/Extra Sharp-White, both in red wrappers. Aged Reserve in the black wrapper is a little harder to find around here. Likewise the Cracked Black Pepper.

I guess I will have to wait on a Mack's pizza clone until other brands work. Never heard of that brand of cheese, sauce, nor flour here. :chef:

Mark,

I really don’t recall all the cheddars I tried in the boardwalk thread, but don’t think I tried any in red wrappers.  I know I never tried any cheddar in the black wrapper. 

What I will be trying to do on the boardwalk thread, in a few weeks, is use KABF with VWG and try the Walmart Great Value Paste with added ingredients.  If anyone wants to try and make a Mack’s attempt that tastes like one they will have to purchase the cheddar from Nasonville, or they can try their own cheddars or blends.  Any way you look at it you still will have a tasty pizza. 

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2012, 11:02:11 PM »
Orange cheese is officially banned on my pizzas and, as a matter of fact, my entire household as well.  LOL   :)

Where does annato food coloring come from and why was it originally used in cheese?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annatto   ;D

Pete,

Lol, that orange cheese is banned on your pizzas.  :-D Just shut you eyes.     

Thanks for the link about Annato.  I recall Peter posting about it before.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #157 on: September 01, 2012, 08:25:29 PM »
I don’t know if any member tried to call the Nasonville Cheese Store today, but I did.  I guess they weren’t opened because of the Labor Day weekend.  I tried to call 8 times in the hours they are supposed to have been open on a Saturday and kept getting the message that they are sorry they missed the call and to call back.  I don’t know if I will have time to call Tuesday, but will for sure on Wednesday.   

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2012, 09:02:26 PM »
Pete,

Lol, that orange cheese is banned on your pizzas.  :-D Just shut you eyes.     

Thanks for the link about Annato.  I recall Peter posting about it before.

Norma


I think ANY color cheddar should be banned on pizza. If it doesn't have mozzarella it should be called something else!

P.S. I bought a bottle off Annato spice but didn't know what to do with it!


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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2012, 09:31:18 PM »
I think ANY color cheddar should be banned on pizza. If it doesn't have mozzarella it should be called something else!

P.S. I bought a bottle off Annato spice but didn't know what to do with it!

Mark,

For about 50 years I thought Mack’s was just using a different mozzarella on their pies.  It wasn’t until the boardwalk thread that I found out really how good just cheddar, or a cheddar blend can taste on a pizza.  I also found out how good cheddar, or a cheddar blend can taste on a Greek style pizza or a Sicilian pizza.  The greasy cheddar melts down the sides of the steel pan and makes the most wonderful crispy crunchy edges on the Greek style pizzas and Sicilian pizzas. 

My distributor told me many pizzerias do use some cheddar blended with mozzarella.  For awhile I also added some cheddar to my blend of two mozzarellas for my pizzas at market.  It was good, but a little more expensive that my two mozzarellas.

I think if you would really taste a Mack’s pizza you wouldn’t be able to tell it was all cheddar.  Did you ever try cheddar in your blend of cheeses for pizzas?

Maybe you could look at this link to see what how use your Annato spice. http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2010/03/i-just-bought-annatto-seasoningnow-what-do-i-do-with-it.html

If you search Annato spice on Google there are many uses for it.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2012, 09:44:16 PM »
Mark,

For about 50 years I thought Mack’s was just using a different mozzarella on their pies.  It wasn’t until the boardwalk thread that I found out really how good just cheddar, or a cheddar blend can taste on a pizza.  I also found out how good cheddar, or a cheddar blend can taste on a Greek style pizza or a Sicilian pizza.  The greasy cheddar melts down the sides of the steel pan and makes the most wonderful crispy crunchy edges on the Greek style pizzas and Sicilian pizzas. 

My distributor told me many pizzerias do use some cheddar blended with mozzarella.  For awhile I also added some cheddar to my blend of two mozzarellas for my pizzas at market.  It was good, but a little more expensive that my two mozzarellas.

I think if you would really taste a Mack’s pizza you wouldn’t be able to tell it was all cheddar.  Did you ever try cheddar in your blend of cheeses for pizzas?

Maybe you could look at this link to see what how use your Annato spice. http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2010/03/i-just-bought-annatto-seasoningnow-what-do-i-do-with-it.html

If you search Annato spice on Google there are many uses for it.

Norma

Norma, thanks on the Annato.

On that pizza I posted last week when the cheese came in, I used mild white cheddar thinly sliced on the one hallf and Brick shredded on the other half. I didn't care much for the cheddar half. Diamond wasn't as choosy! :D

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2012, 09:58:11 PM »

On that pizza I posted last week when the cheese came in, I used mild white cheddar thinly sliced on the one hallf and Brick shredded on the other half. I didn't care much for the cheddar half. Diamond wasn't as choosy! :D

Mark,

Maybe you didn't find the right cheddar to try on your pizza, or you might blend it with mozzarella, or with other cheeses.  I am glad Diamond liked the cheddar side.   ;)

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #162 on: September 01, 2012, 10:17:52 PM »
Mark,

Maybe you didn't find the right cheddar to try on your pizza, or you might blend it with mozzarella, or with other cheeses.  I am glad Diamond liked the cheddar side.   ;)

Norma  

I still have 8-9oz left, maybe I will blend it with mozz next time. I wonder how much different WISCONSIN White Cheddar is from 'Mild" white cheddar. By the way, my friend in Pittsburgh tried to bring me that 6lb loaf of Eddie's Brick cheese from Mande but she said that they kept telling her that they just do internet sales and wouldn't sell it to her; I called and explained I wanted it for today's Tomato TasteFest and a person that I got connected to said maybe the person who talked to her left for the day (yesterday) and said under the circumstances he would have sold it to her, so I never made any pizzas for the TasteFest today.

On another note, The Buffalo Wing Fest is going on today & tomorrow in Buffalo...

EDIT: I know all about Pennsylvania Dutch Birch Beer but does anybody remember Iron Beer soda, and is it still available? I sat next to my Dad at the bar in Duryea PA when I was around 7, him drinking Stegmier's Beer and me drinking Iron Beer!
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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #163 on: September 01, 2012, 10:50:20 PM »
I still have 8-9oz left, maybe I will blend it with mozz next time. I wonder how much different WISCONSIN White Cheddar is from 'Mild" white cheddar. By the way, my friend in Pittsburgh tried to bring me that 6lb loaf of Eddie's Brick cheese from Mande but she said that they kept telling her that they just do internet sales and wouldn't sell it to her; I called and explained I wanted it for today's Tomato TasteFest and a person that I got connected to said maybe the person who talked to her left for the day (yesterday) and said under the circumstances he would have sold it to her, so I never made any pizzas for the TasteFest today.

On another note, The Buffalo Wing Fest is going on today & tomorrow in Buffalo...

EDIT: I know all about Pennsylvania Dutch Birch Beer but does anybody remember Iron Beer soda, and is it still available? I sat next to my Dad at the bar in Duryea PA when I was around 7, him drinking Stegmier's Beer and me drinking Iron Beer!

Mark,

I have blended different cheeses on different threads and did like some of them quite a lot.  A lot of white cheddar does come from Wisconsin.  Many cheeses come from there also.  Each cheddar has their own flavor profile.  I forget how many cheese producers there are in Wisconsin, but know there are a lot.  I have a list somewhere of the codes of the plant manufacturers, so if I saw a big block of cheddar with a code I could tell what plant, or cheese producer it came from.

Sorry, you couldn’t get some of that Brick cheese from Mandi.

The Buffalo Wing Fest sounds like fun too! 

I never heard of Iron Beer soda, but maybe other members have.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #164 on: September 01, 2012, 11:20:21 PM »
Mark,

I have blended different cheeses on different threads and did like some of them quite a lot.  A lot of white cheddar does come from Wisconsin.  Many cheeses come from there also.  Each cheddar has their own flavor profile.  I forget how many cheese producers there are in Wisconsin, but know there are a lot.  I have a list somewhere of the codes of the plant manufacturers, so if I saw a big block of cheddar with a code I could tell what plant, or cheese producer it came from.

Sorry, you couldn’t get some of that Brick cheese from Mandi.

The Buffalo Wing Fest sounds like fun too! 

I never heard of Iron Beer soda, but maybe other members have.

Norma


Iron Beer tasted a little like Dr. Pepper. We are talking over 40 years ago mind you. All I remember was it was in a clear bottle and a brown or copper colored bottle cap I think.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #165 on: September 01, 2012, 11:25:29 PM »
Iron Beer tasted a little like Dr. Pepper. We are talking over 40 years ago mind you. All I remember was it was in a clear bottle and a brown or copper colored bottle cap I think.

Mark,

I never heard of Iron Beer in my whole lifetime and I am almost 66 years old.  In our area it was always Pa. Birch Beer soda.  Maybe if you post about the Iron Beer under other food topics someone can help you.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2012, 12:00:53 AM »
Mark,

I never heard of Iron Beer in my whole lifetime and I am almost 66 years old.  In our area it was always Pa. Birch Beer soda.  Maybe if you post about the Iron Beer under other food topics someone can help you.

Norma

[Just watching the news, who'd have thunk it was 88 in Buffalo, NY in September!]

Maybe it's an "Old Forge area" thing. ;D I will take note of that "other food topics" forum, thanks. Maybe PWPete remembers it...


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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #167 on: September 02, 2012, 07:33:39 AM »
Mark,

This is the board for Off-Topic Foods.

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/board,58.0.html

Here are a few articles about Iron Beer soda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironbeer

http://www.weirdsodareview.com/2009/06/ironbeer-soft-drink.html

Where it can be purchased.

http://www.amazon.com/Ironbeer-6PK-12-OZ/dp/B0000GIOS4/?tag=pizzamaking-20

If you Google “where to find iron beer soda”, without the quotes, you will get other hits.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2012, 02:31:04 PM »

I am sorry if I have mislead anyone on the 1 year old aged Nasonville cheddar being the right cheddar for a Mack’s or Manco & Manco pizza.

After doing more research on Nasonville cheddars, I have discovered there are different aging periods that seem to apply to a Mack’s cheddar.  What I have found is Nasonville can aged the cheddar for different amounts of months and also distributors can age the Nasonville cheddar.  I am not exactly sure, but think the distributors for Mack’s and Manco & Manco do age the cheddar for them for 3 to 4 months.  The cheddar can also be aged for up to 6 months, but then it becomes harder to handle (because it becomes oiler and softer). 

I know members probably won’t want to purchase Nasonville cheddar and then try to age it for 3 to 4 months. 

I also found out from Nasonville that they have different ovens to test out their cheeses and different ovens do bake their cheddars differently.  I had asked why my two attempts (in my mom’s oven and in my deck oven) make the same cheddar taste different.

I am supposed to be getting a shipment of 3 packages of the 1 year old age cheddar and one 1 package of the yellow 1 year old aged cheddar.  I will do a couple more experiments, but think my next experiment will be to used KABF and VWG for the crust.  I am satisfied with the crust using Kyrol flour, but know different people might not be able to purchase the Kyrol flour.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #169 on: September 06, 2012, 03:05:10 PM »
Thanks for the Iron Beer links, I've seen those before. My friend in Pittsburgh said she asked a beer distributor there before she came to the TasteFest and they didn't know anything about it.

I thought someone on this or the other thread mentioned a 28-inch pizza, here's a link, there are a few places out here that make them, here's one:

http://www.dealchicken.com/buffalo-ny/17465

Looking at that link, I see another difference out here: Most pizzerias start the pizza in a pan and then after a few minutes of baking they take it out of the pan and put it on the oven floor/deck.


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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2012, 06:03:00 PM »
I received my cheddars from Nasonville today around lunch time.  There were sent 2 day FedEx Express with two small gel refrigerants, but all the cheddars were very warm.  It is very warm in our area right now.

I didn’t call Nasonville today, but do think they carry 3 month old aged white cheddar in the cheese shop.

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #171 on: September 12, 2012, 10:26:53 PM »
This is my bill I got from Nasonville for the 4 packages of cheddars I purchased.  I had first talked to Julie in the cheese shop and wanted to know how much the shipping would be, but she transferred me to Brenda since I was sent samples before.  I asked Brenda how much the shipping would be, but she never told me and said she would ship out the four cheddars I ordered.  It can be seen how much Nasonville charged me for shipping.  I never asked for 2 day air.  I called Nasonville today to tell them I didn’t think the shipping charge should have been that high.  I was transferred to Brenda, but had to leave a voice mail around lunch.  She didn’t get back to me today.  I called Bill from Trenton (because he has also ordered cheese from Nasonville before) and also had problems with Nasonville charging different shipping charges.  He said I also was charged too much for shipping.  I am going to try and call Brenda again tomorrow.

I just want anyone to be aware of asking about shipping charges first if anyone want to purchase any of the Nasonville cheeses.  I want to purchase 2 packages of the Nasonville 3 month old aged white cheddar for a different Mack’s attempt, but won’t purchase any if the shipping charges stay so high. 

Bill has ordered some of the Nasonville 3 month old aged white cheddar and will let me know how it bakes on his Mack’s attempt later this week. 

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #172 on: September 13, 2012, 01:20:06 AM »
Maybe you should try the Cracker Barrel "Aged Reserve." It's a white cheddar in a black wrapper. I think it's Cracker Barrel's top of the line cheese and not always available everywhere.

Aged Reserve (White) – Carefully Cured for a Rich, Distinct and Balanced Flavor

"In the meantime, be sure to visit their Facebook page for a coupon for $1 off the purchase of any 2 Cracker Barrel products.  What a great opportunity not only to save money, but to try some of their all new flavors!"


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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #173 on: September 13, 2012, 07:49:21 AM »
Maybe you should try the Cracker Barrel "Aged Reserve." It's a white cheddar in a black wrapper. I think it's Cracker Barrel's top of the line cheese and not always available everywhere.

Aged Reserve (White) – Carefully Cured for a Rich, Distinct and Balanced Flavor

"In the meantime, be sure to visit their Facebook page for a coupon for $1 off the purchase of any 2 Cracker Barrel products.  What a great opportunity not only to save money, but to try some of their all new flavors!"


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Mark,

I am sure Cracker Barrel “Aged Reserve” white cheddar in a black wrapper is good, but right now what I am trying to do is find the right Nasonville cheddar.  I think Mack’s and Manco and Manco gets 3 months old aged Nasonville cheddar and it is aged at another place other than Nasonville.  I am not exactly sure about this, but think so from the researching I have done.

I am not going to start purchasing different brands of cheddars just to try, because each one tastes different when the cheddars are baked on a pizza.  I did try a lot of cheddars and blends so far.  Purchasing the different cheddars also gets too expensive.

Thanks for your help!  :)

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Re: NJ Boardwalk Pizza--What Kind of Cheese?
« Reply #174 on: September 13, 2012, 09:46:40 AM »
Sorry, I didn't think you tried that one and it's available to almost anybody for as low as $2.50 when on sale at local supermarkets, much easier and cheaper than paying $19 for shipping and still not having the right thing or correct taste! Maybe you could have compared it and said if similar or not, then others can try it much, much cheaper than Nasonville.

Is it confirmed that Nasonville is the cheese available in NJ boardwalk area and to Mack's?


 

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