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Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« on: April 20, 2011, 04:31:46 PM »
Why do people, usually from the USA, call pizza a "Pie"?

Under the correct definition of "pie":

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A pie is a baked dish which is usually made of a pastry dough casing that covers or completely contains a filling of various sweet or savoury ingredients. Pies can be either "filled", where a dish is covered by pastry and the filling is placed on top of that, "top-crust," where the filling is placed in a dish and covered with a pastry/potato mash top before baking, or "two-crust," with the filling completely enclosed in the pastry shell. Pies can be a variety of sizes, ranging from bite-size to ones designed for multiple servings.

A pizza is a pizza; a pizza is not a pie.  :chef:


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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 04:40:25 PM »
if you say so...
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 04:49:03 PM »

When the moon hits your eye like a big-a pizza pie, that's amore
That's amore
When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine, that's amore
That's amore

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 04:54:41 PM »
Why do people, usually from the USA, call pizza a "Pie"?

I'm with Don. If it's good enough for Dino, it's good enough for me: .

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 05:00:44 PM »
Under the correct definition of "pie":


Whose definition?? An english language dictionary? The word pizza ain't english.

The Ancient Greeks covered their bread with oils, herbs and cheese. In Byzantine Greek the word was spelled πίτα or pita, meaning pie. The word has now spread to Turkish as pide, in Balkan languages: Serbo-Croatian pita, Albanian pite, Bulgarian pita, Modern Hebrew pittāh via the Judaeo-Spanish pita. Though the Hebrew word pittāh is spelled like the Aramaic pittā, which is related to Levantine Arabic fatteh, they are not connected historically.The Romans developed placenta, a sheet of flour topped with cheese and honey and flavored with bay leaves. Modern pizza originated in Italy as the Neapolitan pie with tomato. In 1889, cheese was added.
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 05:07:28 PM »
Why do people, usually from the USA, call pizza a "Pie"?

Under the correct definition of "pie":

A pizza is a pizza; a pizza is not a pie.  :chef:


Englishman, yeah? Me too. To be honest I've wondered why pizza is called pie myself but never looked in to why. I shall now educate myself on the subject.

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 05:24:55 PM »
Well, if you're on a pizza website, and you're a "one fingered hide-and-seek" typist like me,... well, by golly-gosh-o-jeepers, "pie" is good enough for me! :-D

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 05:29:36 PM »
Well, if you're on a pizza website, and you're a "one fingered hide-and-seek" typist like me,... well, by golly-gosh-o-jeepers, "pie" is good enough for me! :-D
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 05:57:53 PM »
The same reason the English call pommes frites "chips". ;D

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 06:01:23 PM »
The same reason the English call pommes frites "chips". ;D

And why the French call french fries "pommes frites"...

Seriously, maybe it's the Dean Martin thing, but "pie" strikes me as more romantic, and sometimes it is absolutely the appropriate word choice for me.

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 07:01:58 PM »
It was a NY thing for me...when I grew up in NY state,people always called it a pizza Pie.

When I moved out west,or traveled other states,no one knew what I was talking about.

Btw,why is everything "bleeding" or "bloody" over there in Europe all the time?
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 07:28:55 PM »
I really donít know why pizza is called pie, but it could have something to do with this. (Pi)

http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circumference.html

One more time!

Sounds so dreamy!  ;D http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,10276.0.html

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 07:40:10 PM »
The same reason the English call pommes frites "chips". ;D
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 07:42:35 PM »
It was a NY thing for me...when I grew up in NY state,people always called it a pizza Pie.

When I moved out west,or traveled other states,no one knew what I was talking about.

As one who grew up in Orange County, NY, same here. On both points. I still call it "pie", without the "pizza" attached, nearly all the time. The Texans look at me like... "dewuhhh???" (a Texan way of saying "what?") when I talk about sauce and cheese on the pie.
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 08:25:56 PM »
Ron,Yeah we would say Pie without the pizza added to it as well.It was a normal thing for us,but we looked crazy to everyone else.

I remember visiting NC as a small boy and we went to a pizza place there.When the waitress asked us if we were ready to order,my mom said "One large cheese pie." The waitress was completely lost,since she never heard that expression before.She was like, "oh you want to order dessert first?"
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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2011, 10:58:41 PM »
I didn't grow up anywhere near NY.  If I had a pizzeria, and a customer refused to acknowledge my pies as such after the correction, I wouldn't serve him.  >:D

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 11:23:35 PM »
I didn't grow up anywhere near NY.  If I had a pizzeria, and a customer refused to acknowledge my pies as such after the correction, I wouldn't serve him.  >:D

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2011, 08:27:33 AM »
A pizza is a pizza; a pizza is not a pie.
It's "pie" because people say it's a pie.  I'm with Don above.  Let's all sing together ♫"When the moon hits your eye like a big-a pizza pie, that's amore . . . When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine, that's amore . . . "♫

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2011, 05:33:25 PM »
My Dad was first generation Italian, He called it a pie and I never disagreed...He also called slow cooked spaghetti sauce "gravy", now, that seemed odd me.  I think it dates to the immigrant days and how things translated, just go with it...I now make gravy too.

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Re: Why are people calling a Pizza a "Pie"?
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2011, 05:42:59 PM »
My Dad was first generation Italian, He called it a pie and I never disagreed...He also called slow cooked spaghetti sauce "gravy", now, that seemed odd me.  I think it dates to the immigrant days and how things translated, just go with it...I now make gravy too.

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