how good are non stick pizza pans?

[preppystud]

i bought one at a discount store, if i don't put oil under the dough, it will stick to the pan for sure.

so i am just wondering if that is normal? or there are really good non-stick pans that won't stick even without oil?

thanks.

[The Dough Doctor]

P.S.
There are some absolutely great nonstick pans available, but not at discount house prices. The best (most durable and nonstick) is made by Lloyd Pans <www.lloydpans.com>. With these pans you just lightly oil the pan the first time and then just wipe them out with a clean towel. It's still a good idea though to very lightly oil the pans again if you wash them/it. Oil is not such a bad thing in a pan. It improves the heat transfer from the pan to the dough, and it can contribute to something of a fried crust characteristic (think P.H. deep-dish) which is crispier than a baked crust, which is what you get in a dry pan. The biggest advantage that I see to a nonstick pan is that any toppings that might spill over will not stick to the pan, making clean up much easier and faster.
Tom Lehmann/The Dough Doctor

[preppystud]

GOOD to know.

anyone else?

[dmcavanagh]

I have some pans from Chicago Metallics that I like, Bed, Bath & Beyond sells a set of three different sized jelly rolls pans which are great for pan style pizzas, and I have an older, large, deep, round pan from them which is great for Chicago style deep dish.

[preppystud]

can you make pizza without putting oil or corn meal on those pans?

[dmcavanagh]

Personally I can't stand corn meal, but I always oil the pan. The dough kinda "fries" from the oil, I feel that is the appeal of pan style pizza.

[jsaras]

The cutter pans from pizzatools.com (same as lloydpans.com) with the PSTK coating are excellent.  I've used Big Dave Ostrander's "New" Old Faithful dough, rolled very thin, and it was quite good. 

That said, I wonder if there are other thin formulations that are better suited for the pan.

J

[charbo]

I use a Kitchen Essentials pan from Calphalon.  Without oil, pizza sticks.