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« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2008, 11:42:21 PM »

The three quoted above are the main stores around here where I live.

I used to live in Sarasota and Publix was always crowded, Albertsons & Winn Dixie split the other 5 customers between them. I never could figure out how they survived. Now I am in Oregon and Albertsons seems to have 6 customers here, I don't understand why they still exist. And as I recall Winn Dixie was going BK in 2005, I just was curious if they still were around.

Albertsons of Portland, Oregon does not know Ultragrain. Maybe it has not hit the West Coast.

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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2008, 02:03:26 PM »

Ultragrain Hard White Wheat Flour, water, coarse whole-wheat flour, sugar, soybean oil, salt, wheat gluten, vanilla extract, baker's yeast.

Peter,

The vanilla extract in the list of ingredients for Papa John's whole wheat pizza intrigued me, and I've been thinking about it every since you posted the list.  Over the past couple of weeks I have been making a dough with the following formula:

100   598.0 g   4.6667 c      King Arthur bread flour
63   377.0 g   1.5 c, 1.5 T      water
3.5   21.00 g   3 T         malted milk, powder
1.84   11.00 g   2 t         sea salt

I have been referring to it jokingly as "The Maltese Dough" (not to be confused with dough made in Malta) since it's being "teased" with malted milk and doesn't get any of the usual sugar or oil.  The fat and soy lecithin in the malted milk suffice as primitive oil stand-ins.

Today I decided to make it a vanilla malted milkshake dough.  I figured there wouldn't be a better time to try out vanilla in dough than with malted milk as the only other additive.  To the above I added a whole teaspoon of vanilla extract.  The results of combining malted milk and vanilla extract were predictable.  It smelled a little like a barley milkshake.  However, once I added the yeast it took on a completely different form of fragrance.  It was like a sweetened, intense version of yeast aroma.  After combining all the ingredients and kneading the dough for about seven minutes, it started to take on an intense bread aroma, almost as if the dough had already partially baked.

Vanillin is typically used in baking to heighten the flavor (olfaction and gustation) intensity of sweet goods, but in the case where there is little perceived sweetness, it simply intensifies whatever flavor is there.  There is a slight sweetening effect even in the absence of additional sugar, but in the presence of so much flour, bread is the overwhelming sensory perception.  This dough I made earlier will be baked later tonight.

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« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2008, 08:10:24 PM »

Does anyone know what supermarket chains carry the Eagle Mills All Purpose white flour with Ultragrain ? Their web site is poorly designed and I can't seem to find the answer to that question.  Where are you people buying it ?
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« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2009, 09:32:13 AM »

November,

Are you proofing the yeast in this recipe or adding it dry?  I scaled it up to 800 grams of flour and that resulted in 12 grams of yeast.  Seems like a lot. Final product came out quite good but the coronas (crust edges) were a bit puffy for my taste.  Seems like using less yeast, or not proofing first might fix that.
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2009, 11:30:06 AM »

Is the yeast being proffed in this recipe?  I scaled it up to 800 grams of flour and that resulted in 12 grams of yeast.  Seems like a lot.
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There are 11 dough formulas in this thread specifying a yeast amount.  None of them scale to 800 g of flour and 12 g of yeast.  What dough formula are you looking at and what math are you using to scale it?  All the yeast listed here so far has been ADY, so yes, in accordance with recommended practices, the ADY is being proofed in water before being added to the flour.
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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2009, 02:48:03 PM »

November,

Thanks for your reply.  I just realized I skipped a decimal.  For 800 grams flour I should have used 1.2 grams ADY, not 12.  No wonder the crust edges got so puffy.  Other than that the dough came out pretty good.  I just finished cooking 8 9"ers.  I used your recipe that calls for 1.414 rice bran oil and 0.150 ADY.

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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2009, 06:40:10 PM »

For those who are interested, according to an article (see below) that I recently read at bakingbusiness.com, Ultragrain Whole Wheat Flour is scheduled to appear on some supermarket shelves this spring:

Ultragrain Whole Wheat Flour to appear at retail

(Bakingbusiness.com, April 02, 2009)
by Jeff Gelski 

OMAHA — ConAgra Foods, Inc. will make Eagle Mills 100% Ultragrain White Whole Wheat Flour available at select grocery stores nationwide starting this spring. The flour’s taste, appearance and texture are similar to that of refined white flours, and the flour offers the same nutrition as 100% whole wheat, according to the company.

"Most Americans aren’t willing to sacrifice taste, appearance and flavor to get whole grain nutrition," said Phil Lempert, a food trends editor known as the "Supermarket Guru." "Today’s consumers want whole grain products to taste as good as the refined white flour products they know and love, and Ultragrain White Whole Wheat Flour is a perfect balance of what consumers need and want."

Ultragrain flour delivers 30 grams of whole grains per serving and 4.5 times the amount of fiber as refined white flours. It performs well when blended with refined flour. Consumers may use the Eagle Mills 100% Ultragrain White Whole Wheat Flour wheat flour to replace a portion of their refined flour in recipes ranging from cookies, biscuits and rolls to baked or fried chicken. Eagle Mills 100% Ultragrain White Whole Wheat Flour has a suggested retail price of $3.69 to $3.99 for a 5-lb bag.

ConAgra Mills already makes Ultragrain available to food manufacturers and food service operators.

"We have seen the success that food manufacturers and schools have had in changing their recipes to include whole grains using Ultragrain," said Mike Veal, vice-president of marketing for Omaha-based ConAgra Mills. "This retail package of Ultragrain is huge in that consumers can now add Ultragrain to their family recipes and increase the whole grain nutrition in the meals that their families already love."

Also at the retail level, Eagle Mills all-purpose flour that has 30% Ultragrain and 70% refined flour is available. It has 9 grams of whole grains per serving and works as a cup-for-cup replacement to other all-purpose flours. The suggested retail price is $2.99 to $3.49 for a 5-lb bag.


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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2009, 10:35:48 PM »

Just saw the 100% ultragrain on special as a new item at my local Ingles.  This comes a day after I ordered a 50# bag of Wheat Montana's Prairie Gold (White Wheat) from a local health store.  Oh well, I got a 50# bag of Wheat Montana's hi-gluten white to go with it!
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