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Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« on: May 18, 2009, 11:44:43 PM »
As many have posted on here already, Escalon 6-in-1 is the popular choice of canned tomatoes for deep dish pizza.

I was looking at the escalon.net website and noticed that they have a chunky version of their 6-in-1 ground tomatoes.
"Peeled Chunky Ground Tomatoes in Extra-Heavy Puree" :  http://www.escalon.net/6in1.aspx?b=3

I have been lucky to find the original non-chunky 6-in-1 in the local Dominick's grocery store here in Chicago, but it's the only Escalon variety they have.

I have a suspicion that the chunky style will give me the Lou Malnati style tomato texture I'm looking for.
Has anyone tried the chunky style?

I may try to mix in some Dei Fratelli or Muir Glen diced tomatoes into my next deep dish sauce to improve the texture.
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 07:05:22 AM »
Ed, these are only available in #10 cans or I would have hunted high and low to get them in a 28 oz. can.  The unpeeled ground are the only 6 in 1's available in 28 oz. cans (Bella Rosa's are available as well).  I've still found the best sauce for a Malnati's style deep dish has come from finding good whole peeled tomatoes, hand crush them removing core and seeds, drain, and add some 6 in 1 puree (made from the ground tomtoes).  It's kinda labor intensive but, I think, the best way to do it. 

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 04:12:42 PM »
Haven't tried the chunky, but I can't imagine it NOT being great.

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 09:20:36 PM »
I am with loo on this one 6 in 1s with the addition of the labor intensive, 5 Min., hand crushed whole plum San Marzano (d.o.p.) if you like  :P
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 09:55:32 PM »
I just picked up a case of the "chunky" 6N1's from Restaurant Depot last week.  It's my first time with them, but have to say I like the added texture enough I've been using them on my Gino's style as well as my "thin" crusts.  A little basil, a bit of garlic, a couple of cranks of fresh pepper and just a blurp or two of honey.  mmm mmm good.

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2009, 08:40:10 PM »
As many have posted on here already, Escalon 6-in-1 is the popular choice of canned tomatoes for deep dish pizza.

I was looking at the escalon.net website and noticed that they have a chunky version of their 6-in-1 ground tomatoes.
"Peeled Chunky Ground Tomatoes in Extra-Heavy Puree" :  http://www.escalon.net/6in1.aspx?b=3

I have been lucky to find the original non-chunky 6-in-1 in the local Dominick's grocery store here in Chicago, but it's the only Escalon variety they have.

I have a suspicion that the chunky style will give me the Lou Malnati style tomato texture I'm looking for.
Has anyone tried the chunky style?

I may try to mix in some Dei Fratelli or Muir Glen diced tomatoes into my next deep dish sauce to improve the texture.



I used the 6-in-1 ground for this pie I made last night (all pepperoni, nicely charred, half bacon, half mushroom and green pepper).

Great flavor, but as I suspected, it wasn't as chunky as I'd like it to be, so I'll be putting some good quality diced into my next pie along with the 6-in1. (any favorite brands for diced tomatoes?).

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2009, 09:33:46 PM »
I like Red Pack  diced w/ basil they area available most everywhere, and have a nice fresh taste. See sourdoughs post on tomato comparison http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,8606.0.html The Walgreen's Value Brand  and the S&W have gotten some good feedback as well.  Don't forget Jersey fresh!! I bought some of both but I have yet to try either. I  do plan to get to them soon.
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 01:35:58 AM »
I've found a worthy challenger to the 6 in 1 tomatoes...  SAN MARZANO!  These taste incredible!

The website link below has pictures of the cans and their contents.
http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/main/vegetables/san-marzano-tomatoes.asp

Their 'diced' tomatoes are a very large dice, maybe a half inch approx.

I ended up draining the can of diced San Marzano tomatoes for a few seconds, and then combined that with about 1/3 of a can of the crushed San Marzano to cover a 14" pie.

I picked them up for about $3.59 a can at Treasure Island Grocery in Chicago, but I imagine you can probably find them at Whole Foods and other chains.

If anyone can find these cheaper in Chicago, I'd love to hear where so I can stock up!
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 12:35:57 AM »
I am with loo on this one 6 in 1s with the addition of the labor intensive, 5 Min., hand crushed whole plum San Marzano (d.o.p.) if you like  :P
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 06:18:47 AM »
Do the hand crushing and deseeding under a drizzle of water in the sink.  Washes most away.

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 09:58:01 AM »
I went to my local GFS (Gordon Food Service) store the other day, as I occasionally do, and checked out their pizza sauces.  Unfortunately they all come in the giant 6 lb plus cans and they even had my favorite 6 in 1 sauce from Escalon.  The other types and brands that I saw I had never tried, so I thought I would ask about them here.

Among the brands/products were
--Saporito Super Heavy Pizza Sauce
--Saporito Super Sweet and Super Heavy Pizza Sauce
--Full Red Pizza Sauce with Basil
--San Benito Selecto Super Heavy Pizza Sauce w. Basil
--Super Dolce Pizza Sauce
as well as some other brands that appeared to be their house brands.

I'm always interested in trying new things, but I thought I'd inquire of our folks here as to any prior experience and opinions regarding these products?  What does the term "Super Heavy" mean?  How do some of you rate these?
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 10:29:46 AM »
BTB, I have used all of those products.   Here is the run down.

Saporito Super Heavy Pizza Sauce.   This stuff is the thickest tomato paste you have ever encountered.   Probably twice as thick as anything you can buy in the grocery store.  When thinned down its a similar flavor to a 6 in 1, but with less magic going on, and a totally smooth consistency.   I like to use this to thicken other products that are too thin out of the can.

Saporito Super Sweet and Super Heavy Pizza Sauce.  Stanislaus (the brand) basically has two types of products that they just form into varying thickness and consistencies.   The two sides of the product line are made from slightly different processes and types of tomato.  This product is the "other" version of the above product, and is exactly what you would think.  It doesn't have sugar added, but it tastes like it does.   It is a very sweet flavor, maybe too bright for most people.  It is VERY thick like the above product.   There is a sister product called Super Dolce

Full Red Pizza Sauce with basil.  This is yet another Stanislaus product, but this, like the 6 in 1's is in a ready to use consistency. You will probably find no need to thin it or thicken it.  Again, this is a smilar flavor to the 6 in 1, but without any chunky texture to it.   Basically a puree of 6 in 1 if you can imagine that.   This product is very popular for your standard NY pizza style.   I find it to taste a bit better than a thinned down Saporito Super Heavy Pizza Sauce, but it is similar.   

San Benito Selecto Super Heavy Pizza Sauce wbasil.    San Benito is a different brand than all the other products you are asking about (which are made by Stanislaus).   It is a little cheaper, and I find it slightly inferior.   If Stanislaus and Escalon brands get a grade A, Sasn Benito products get a B+.   The San Benito line of products very closely mimics the product line of Stanislaus.  This is their version of The Saporito Super Heavy Pizza Sauce, so its basically an incredibly thick tomato paste.

Super Dolce Pizza Sauce.    This is the extra sweet version of the Full Red Pizza Sauce w.basil.   Similar consistency to the Full Red, so it is ready to use on a pizza without any need to add too much water or thickener.   Like the Saporito Super Sweet and Super Heavy Pizza Sauce, it is a bit too sweet for my tastes.   


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http://loumalnatis.fbmta.com/members/ViewMailing.aspx?MailingID=36507229369&StoreCode=002

For those who can't see the link, it says:

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AVAILABLE IN ALL STORES NOW!
Lou Malnati's California Valley Grown Tomatoes

Take home a can today!

$2.95 ea. 28oz. can
Perfect for sauces!


They probably mean they are available at all Lou Malnati's locations,
but I'm hoping they also start selling them at local grocery stores.
I will investigate very soon about the availability of these tomatoes at my local Jewel/Osco and report back.
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - San Marzano (white label)
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 02:01:07 PM »
For those who have a Treasure Island Grocery near them,
they have the 28 oz. San Marzano (white label) tomatoes on sale right now for $3 a can.
I'm stocking up before they change the price again.

I've found a worthy challenger to the 6 in 1 tomatoes...  SAN MARZANO!  These taste incredible!

The website link below has pictures of the cans and their contents.
http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/main/vegetables/san-marzano-tomatoes.asp

Their 'diced' tomatoes are a very large dice, maybe a half inch approx.

I ended up draining the can of diced San Marzano tomatoes for a few seconds, and then combined that with about 1/3 of a can of the crushed San Marzano to cover a 14" pie.

I picked them up for about $3.59 a can at Treasure Island Grocery in Chicago, but I imagine you can probably find them at Whole Foods and other chains.

If anyone can find these cheaper in Chicago, I'd love to hear where so I can stock up!

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - San Marzano (white label)
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 02:43:25 PM »
For those who have a Treasure Island Grocery near them,
they have the 28 oz. San Marzano (white label) tomatoes . . .
Ed, when you say San Marzano's, there are dozens of different kinds and brands of San Marzano's tomatoes.  I, too, love them, but still give a real slight edge to the 6 in 1, but I need a little more experience under my belt with the San Marzano's.  Have you tried the Malnati's tomatoes yet?

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - San Marzano (white label)
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 02:48:27 PM »
Ed, when you say San Marzano's, there are dozens of different kinds and brands of San Marzano's tomatoes.  I, too, love them, but still give a real slight edge to the 6 in 1, but I need a little more experience under my belt with the San Marzano's.  Have you tried the Malnati's tomatoes yet?

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When I mention the 'white label' San Marzano tomatoes, I'm talking about the non-DOP tomatoes that are grown in California and distributed from a company in New Jersey. Not grown in Italy, but dang tasty. I've posted earlier in this thread about the brand I'm talking about. http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,8592.msg79208.html#msg79208  I usually use their diced version, though I've been known to also mix in some of their crushed when I make more than one pizza.

I haven't gotten out to a Lou Malnati's to pick up their canned tomatoes yet. I will definitely report back when I do.
I plan to do a comparison between the two.
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - SAN MARZANO diced
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2010, 01:52:19 PM »
I've found a worthy challenger to the 6 in 1 tomatoes...  SAN MARZANO!  These taste incredible!

The website link below has pictures of the cans and their contents.
http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/main/vegetables/san-marzano-tomatoes.asp

Their 'diced' tomatoes are a very large dice, maybe a half inch approx.

I ended up draining the can of diced San Marzano tomatoes for a few seconds, and then combined that with about 1/3 of a can of the crushed San Marzano to cover a 14" pie.

I picked them up for about $3.59 a can at Treasure Island Grocery in Chicago, but I imagine you can probably find them at Whole Foods and other chains.

If anyone can find these cheaper in Chicago, I'd love to hear where so I can stock up!



I don't know for how long, but these tomatoes are currently on sale at my local Treasure Island Grocery for $2.89 a can.
(and no, I haven't pick up malnati's tomatoes yet. I keep getting sidetracked)
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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2010, 09:30:22 PM »
Hey, I've recently started to make deep dish pizza. I tried Red Gold crushed tomatoes and that was I Ok with that. I managed to find the famed 6 in 1 tomatoes at my local Dominicks and I liked the clean sweet taste of it, but I wished there were more chunky pieces of tomato like one guy said. I've heard about 7/11 and Cento tomatoes, are those any good and where would I be able to get them in chicago?

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 11:01:30 AM »
6-in-1 is classic--Giordano's uses them. The best I've found are Pastene, but I can't find them any more. So I switched to Tomato Magic--they taste very, very fresh!

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Re: Tomatoes for Deep Dish - Escalon 6-in-1 Chunky???
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2010, 07:02:41 PM »
If you are a fan of 6 in 1 or Pastene, give a brand called Scalafini a try. I rate them just a little higher than the other two. They are a product of Dom Peppino company of NJ.


 

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