Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX

[Jackie Tran]

Bob that is a good tip about watching the dough.  I like to do tht any how as I like to watch the dough change in structure and appearance. 

Scott, words cannot express my appreciation for your insight.

[Matthew]

Bob that is a good tip about watching the dough.  I like to do tht any how as I like to watch the dough change in structure and appearance. 

Scott, words cannot express my appreciation for your insight.

I agree with Bob, I sit there and watch my dough through the whole process.  To me, that's the best way to know when your dough is ready.  I am at the point where I no longer measure my flour or time the process; the dough takes on a certain colour & characteristic & you just learn to know that it's ready by look & feel.  I just ordered a spiral mixer so I'm going to have to start over from the beginning again.  I'm sure it will be worth it.  It's spring soon so I have some time to perfect my dough before using my WFO.

Matt

[BrickStoneOven]

What kind of spiral did you get, is it the Micro SP5?

[Matthew]

What kind of spiral did you get, is it the Micro SP5?

Yes

[BrickStoneOven]

Nice, you have to tell us how it works out...maybe make a video of it doing what it does best . If you don't mind me asking how much did the mixer cost?

[scott r]

I came so close to buying one of those micro spiral Esmach sp5's myself.   A friend of mine has one and it is really top shelf and easy to use.  Its pretty crazy because he doesn't even use it anymore because he opened a real bakery with a full size spiral!  I actually preferred it to the Santos, which is about the same price.    Its the only home mixer (other than the bosch  ) that I think makes a dough as good as a professional mixer.   Well...it should.   it IS a professional mixer.    You are going to have some serious pizza!

[Matthew]

I came so close to buying one of those micro spiral Esmach sp5's myself.   A friend of mine has one and it is really top shelf and easy to use.  Its pretty crazy because he doesn't even use it anymore because he opened a real bakery with a full size spiral!  I actually preferred it to the Santos, which is about the same price.    Its the only home mixer (other than the bosch  ) that I think makes a dough as good as a professional mixer.   Well...it should.   it IS a professional mixer.    You are going to have some serious pizza!

Hey Scott,
Lots of respect bro!  It was your detailed explanation on the DLX that really helped me to understand how to make fantastic dough every time.  Can't wait, I won't have it for at least another 3 weeks or so.  I found a Cdn distributor in British Columbia who sells it for quite less than TMB not to mention that I'm saving a few hundred dollars on freight & duty.   They now have a removeable bowl version for $400 more, pretty hefty premium.

Matt

[andreguidon]

what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?

[BrickStoneOven]

what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?

Micro Spiral SP5. Here is a video of it in use.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBF1V30B78&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBF1V30B78&amp;feature=related</a>

Scott does your friend still have this mixer?

[Matthew]

what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?

Hey Andre,
This is the one that I just purchased.  It is the SP5 micro spiral mixer & is manufactured by Esmach in Italy.  It is available with or without a detachable bowl, the difference is about $400.  It is also available in white.
http://www.esmach.it/

[scott r]

My friends mixer does not have the removable bowl.     That was something that put me off at first, but I can assure you that it is very easy to clean even without it.   The key is that you get in there right after your dough is done and wipe the bowl up with a wet towel.     Its not really as hard as it seems.   What you don't want to do is wait too long or the dough will dry on there and be very hard to clean off.     May I ask what the total price was for you with shipping?

[scott r]

Hey Scott,
Lots of respect bro!  It was your detailed explanation on the DLX that really helped me to understand how to make fantastic dough every time. 

Matt

If anyone has a DLX and is having trouble, here is a link to my tutorial that Matt is talking about on how I achieved a high quality dough with the DLX.   Matt, Im so glad that was helpful and that you get a good result every time!  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7605.0.html

[Matthew]

If anyone has a DLX and is having trouble, here is a link to my tutorial that Matt is talking about on how I achieved a high quality dough with the DLX.   Matt, Im so glad that was helpful and that you get a good result every time!  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7605.0.html

Written perfectly my friend!

Matt

[andreguidon]

thanks Matt !

[scott r]

I have been doing some more experimentation with bosch mix times, and I now think my 8-10 minute recommendation is too long.   7 minutes has been really good for most flours lately.   

[Chet]

  Was browsing around looking at the Bosch mixers, they are on sale for $359.99  hmmm very tempting,

  Chet

[Jackie Tran]

Can you post up a link Chet?  I keep going back and forth about getting one but I think I'm getting closer to jumping on the band wagon.   

[Chet]

  Jackie

  Quite a few sites are selling this unit the Bosch Universal Plus for $359 with free shipping and most have the free cd & cookbook. I am leaning towards Breadtopia, since they have a few accessories I want to try that are cheap, such as the mini dough mixer for small batches of dough for $6.00 and some kind of a cover for $2.00 that stops the dough from getting into the small crevices.  I sure hope they mix dough better than my bread machines, gonna chance one this afternoon from breadtopia

    Chet


http://www.fykitchen.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=1396
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/Bosch_Universal_Plus_Mixer_MUM6N10UC.aspx
http://www.breadtopia.com/store/bosch-universal-plus-mixer.html

[Jackie Tran]

Chet, I think we may be in similar positions as far as pulling the trigger on one of these to see if it improves our dough.   If you do take the chance this afternoon, I will be very interested in your thoughts on the differences it makes on your dough. 

Apparently these are so versatile (like most mixers) they can have many uses besides making pizza dough.   I'm definitely leaning towards it to learn how to make bread.  That's one area I haven't made time to explore yet but having a mixer like the bosch for pizza bread just seems like a good idea. 

Cheers,
Chau

[Jackie Tran]

Wow after many months of dragging my feet, I finally decided to pull the trigger.  Just ordered a Bosch universal plus tonight from http://www.fykitchen.com/Results.cfm?category=6&gclid=CIeumvXtlKQCFQIQbAodznkfGw

They have great combination packages, good prices, and free shipping. 

I also ordered a few accessories from breadtopia that FYK didn't have like the dough creep gizmo
http://www.breadtopia.com/cgi-breadtopia/sb/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*1a54944b81038ccc09b1749ed96ad2 and the bosch small batch kneading attachment
http://www.breadtopia.com/store/dough-mixer-tool.html

Thanks to all who contributed info about their mixers, tips and suggestions.   Also a big thanks to Bobino414 and Scott r for their valuable insights.