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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2010, 12:07:51 AM »
I came so close to buying one of those micro spiral Esmach sp5's myself.   A friend of mine has one and it is really top shelf and easy to use.  Its pretty crazy because he doesn't even use it anymore because he opened a real bakery with a full size spiral!  I actually preferred it to the Santos, which is about the same price.    Its the only home mixer (other than the bosch  :) ) that I think makes a dough as good as a professional mixer.   Well...it should.   it IS a professional mixer.    You are going to have some serious pizza!


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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2010, 05:25:38 AM »
I came so close to buying one of those micro spiral Esmach sp5's myself.   A friend of mine has one and it is really top shelf and easy to use.  Its pretty crazy because he doesn't even use it anymore because he opened a real bakery with a full size spiral!  I actually preferred it to the Santos, which is about the same price.    Its the only home mixer (other than the bosch  :) ) that I think makes a dough as good as a professional mixer.   Well...it should.   it IS a professional mixer.    You are going to have some serious pizza!

Hey Scott,
Lots of respect bro!  It was your detailed explanation on the DLX that really helped me to understand how to make fantastic dough every time.  Can't wait, I won't have it for at least another 3 weeks or so.  I found a Cdn distributor in British Columbia who sells it for quite less than TMB not to mention that I'm saving a few hundred dollars on freight & duty.   They now have a removeable bowl version for $400 more, pretty hefty premium.

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2010, 05:52:50 AM »
what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2010, 09:33:24 AM »
what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?

Micro Spiral SP5. Here is a video of it in use.

Scott does your friend still have this mixer?
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2010, 09:34:22 AM »
what is the exact name of this product ? iam interested...

i have found this link :

http://www.tmbbaking.com/sp5.html

but this is not made by TMD right ?
Hey Andre,
This is the one that I just purchased.  It is the SP5 micro spiral mixer & is manufactured by Esmach in Italy.  It is available with or without a detachable bowl, the difference is about $400.  It is also available in white.
http://www.esmach.it/

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2010, 09:51:35 AM »
My friends mixer does not have the removable bowl.     That was something that put me off at first, but I can assure you that it is very easy to clean even without it.   The key is that you get in there right after your dough is done and wipe the bowl up with a wet towel.     Its not really as hard as it seems.   What you don't want to do is wait too long or the dough will dry on there and be very hard to clean off.     May I ask what the total price was for you with shipping?

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2010, 09:56:04 AM »
Hey Scott,
Lots of respect bro!  It was your detailed explanation on the DLX that really helped me to understand how to make fantastic dough every time. 

Matt

If anyone has a DLX and is having trouble, here is a link to my tutorial that Matt is talking about on how I achieved a high quality dough with the DLX.   Matt, Im so glad that was helpful and that you get a good result every time!  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7605.0.html
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2010, 10:05:50 AM »
If anyone has a DLX and is having trouble, here is a link to my tutorial that Matt is talking about on how I achieved a high quality dough with the DLX.   Matt, Im so glad that was helpful and that you get a good result every time!  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7605.0.html

Written perfectly my friend! ;)

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2010, 02:35:56 PM »
thanks Matt !
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2010, 04:09:38 PM »
I have been doing some more experimentation with bosch mix times, and I now think my 8-10 minute recommendation is too long.   7 minutes has been really good for most flours lately.   

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2010, 08:12:20 AM »


  Was browsing around looking at the Bosch mixers, they are on sale for $359.99  hmmm very tempting,

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2010, 09:59:53 AM »
Can you post up a link Chet?  I keep going back and forth about getting one but I think I'm getting closer to jumping on the band wagon.   


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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2010, 12:22:53 PM »


  Jackie

  Quite a few sites are selling this unit the Bosch Universal Plus for $359 with free shipping and most have the free cd & cookbook. I am leaning towards Breadtopia, since they have a few accessories I want to try that are cheap, such as the mini dough mixer for small batches of dough for $6.00 and some kind of a cover for $2.00 that stops the dough from getting into the small crevices.  I sure hope they mix dough better than my bread machines, gonna chance one this afternoon from breadtopia

    Chet


http://www.fykitchen.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=1396
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/Bosch_Universal_Plus_Mixer_MUM6N10UC.aspx
http://www.breadtopia.com/store/bosch-universal-plus-mixer.html

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2010, 12:27:49 PM »
Chet, I think we may be in similar positions as far as pulling the trigger on one of these to see if it improves our dough.   If you do take the chance this afternoon, I will be very interested in your thoughts on the differences it makes on your dough. 

Apparently these are so versatile (like most mixers) they can have many uses besides making pizza dough.   I'm definitely leaning towards it to learn how to make bread.  That's one area I haven't made time to explore yet but having a mixer like the bosch for pizza bread just seems like a good idea. 

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2010, 09:36:32 PM »
Wow after many months of dragging my feet, I finally decided to pull the trigger.  Just ordered a Bosch universal plus tonight from http://www.fykitchen.com/Results.cfm?category=6&gclid=CIeumvXtlKQCFQIQbAodznkfGw

They have great combination packages, good prices, and free shipping. 

I also ordered a few accessories from breadtopia that FYK didn't have like the dough creep gizmo
http://www.breadtopia.com/cgi-breadtopia/sb/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*1a54944b81038ccc09b1749ed96ad2 and the bosch small batch kneading attachment
http://www.breadtopia.com/store/dough-mixer-tool.html

Thanks to all who contributed info about their mixers, tips and suggestions.   Also a big thanks to Bobino414 and Scott r for their valuable insights. 
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2010, 09:46:40 PM »
Wow after many months of dragging my feet, I finally decided to pull the trigger.  Just ordered a Bosch universal plus tonight from http://www.fykitchen.com/Results.cfm?category=6&gclid=CIeumvXtlKQCFQIQbAodznkfGw

They have great combination packages, good prices, and free shipping. 

I also ordered a few accessories from breadtopia that FYK didn't have like the dough creep gizmo
http://www.breadtopia.com/cgi-breadtopia/sb/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*1a54944b81038ccc09b1749ed96ad2 and the bosch small batch kneading attachment
http://www.breadtopia.com/store/dough-mixer-tool.html

Thanks to all who contributed info about their mixers, tips and suggestions.   Also a big thanks to Bob1, and Scott r for their valuable insights. 

Chau,

Great to hear you purchased a Bosch universal plus!  ;D  I will be looking forward to see what kinds of doughs you make with the Bosch. 

Norma

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2010, 10:25:15 PM »
It will be interesting to compare the Bosch against my hand technique.  :-D  I have hand kneaded well over 100 batches of dough using various different types of hand techniques, making a few up along the way.  I'm quite confident that the bosch will definitely knead a smoother and better dough than I can do by hand.   If nothing else, it will save me lots of time.  Hopefully I won't lose that time in cleaning up the Bosch.  :-D

I have hesitated in getting a mixer for so long b/c I was pretty stubborn about learning to hand knead dough properly.  After doing it for awhile now, I feel like I have a decent handle on hand kneading.

Wanted to give a big thanks to Bobino414 for giving me additional insights into advantages and disadvantages of the Bosch mixer vs KA's.  It is very much appreciated Bob.   Sorry for the name mix up earlier.

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2010, 11:24:57 PM »
It will be interesting to compare the Bosch against my hand technique.  :-D  I have hand kneaded well over 100 batches of dough using various different types of hand techniques, making a few up along the way.  I'm quite confident that the bosch will definitely knead a smoother and better dough than I can do by hand.   If nothing else, it will save me lots of time.  Hopefully I won't lose that time in cleaning up the Bosch.  :-D

I have hesitated in getting a mixer for so long b/c I was pretty stubborn about learning to hand knead dough properly.  After doing it for awhile now, I feel like I have a decent handle on hand kneading.

Wanted to give a big thanks to Bobino414 for giving me additional insights into advantages and disadvantages of the Bosch mixer vs KA's.  It is very much appreciated Bob.   Sorry for the name mix up earlier.

Chau

Yes JT!

I think you'll love the Bosch.  I already love mine.

I will be interested to see your impression of wet kreading vs the dump it all in and press on technique.

If you have a dishwasher cleanup is a snap.

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2010, 11:40:33 PM »
Just for you Alexi, I'll do a batch with each technique and compare them.

A bit premature, but I'll probably fall into the dump it all in and go crowd.  :-D I have high hopes for this mixer.  Lol.

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2010, 12:18:09 AM »
hey guys, I just made this video showing the bosch dough.   

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2010, 12:31:18 AM »
hey guys, I just made this video showing the bosch dough.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_H6xA0skew

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2010, 08:37:28 AM »
hey guys, I just made this video showing the bosch dough.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_H6xA0skew

Scott,

Your dough looks amazing.   ;D

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2010, 04:20:08 PM »
any thoughts on the older bosch mixers?  or the compact 450 watt?  I have a Hobart at work but im dealing with small batch and would like to get a used mixer in the 150 dollar range.

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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2010, 04:25:11 PM »
I know marc (widespread pizza) had the older universal (not plus) and it is actually the mixer that we both thought beat out the santos (I loaned marc my santos for a month or two to try out).   So...yes the old ones are good too.  Marc does prefer his universal plus for a number of different reasongs, however, so if you have the coin its better to go with the dlx.   Good luck!
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Re: Bosch Universal Plus or Electrolux DLX
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2010, 04:33:07 PM »
Thanks, they have a few decent looking ones on ebay in the range I want to spend.  Need an upgrade over my inconsistent hand kneading haha.