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Offline Jackie Tran

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Am I sick? Do I need help? Will it get better?
« on: April 11, 2010, 04:52:48 AM »
It's 2 am and I can't sleep.  Had another pizza making dream tonight.  Hard as I try I can't get back to sleep.   There's a couple of new oven setups I'd like to try so what am I doing at 2am?

I have dough but it's not proofed yet so I can't make a pizza RIGHT AWAY, but I can run those oven tests.  I'm testing a couple of new combination of stone/pan set ups and taking temps with my thermogun. 

I have in the past waken up to flappin' the bed spread/sheets dreaming that I was stretching a pizza skin.  :-D

I have recently cooked pizzas 3 nights in a row back to back.

I have on many occasions made pizza after dinner for the purpose of testing and research.

I constantly struggle between letting the dough ferment another day or 2 in the fridge to see if it will go 1-2 more days versus wanting to bake now.

Is this semi-normal behavior or do I need help? ???

This post is sort of in jest.  Please don't contact the pizza police on me.


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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 07:44:29 AM »
Yes. Yes. No.

Bake a few pizzas and call me the morning.

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 10:27:39 AM »
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Am I sick?
Yes, I'm afraid so.  You suffer from a rare form of pizza related separation anxiety disorder.
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Do I need help?
Yes, of course.  Left untreated this condition will continue to ferment until the patient collapses.  The time from symptom onset to this deflation varies with temperature and other factors, but is inevitable. 
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Will it get better?
There is no cure only management through treatment.  But luckily you have happened upon the largest known self help therapy group of similarly effected individuals.  Given the proper protocols and management there is no reason you cannot rise above this to full development and achieve the balance necessary to live a normal life. 



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Re: Am I sick? Do I need help? Will it get better?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 10:49:33 AM »
sounds like something i would do if i was single and living alone ... :-D

are you ?

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2010, 11:20:10 AM »
Tran,

I have seen these symptoms in members many times before. The members who usually exhibit these symptoms tend to be the ones who become overly enamored of the scientific and other technical aspects of pizza making. This induces them to conduct endless experiments, tests and research (they are among the heaviest Google users) in search of answers to perplexing questions. When they aren't actually running experiments and tests, they are thinking about them and talking about them to just about anyone who will listen. They are the heaviest users of the forum's dough calculating tools. Spouses, friends and relatives who have not shunned such members spot the symptoms and, whether out of self defense from having eaten so many pizzas (often to the exclusion of other foods), may take them aside and gently suggest that they seek treatment before they further hurt themselves and impair their relationships with others. Other aspects of one's life take on lesser importance, like work and other hobbies and interests, and the bulk of their socialization centers on their pizza habit. An inordinate amount of their time is spent on this forum, reading each and every post moments after posting, and they will think nothing about posting between midnight and 5:00 AM. 

I don't want to alarm you about what happens in cases like yours but, in your specific case you might ask Steve, the owner and Administrator of this forum, to accept you as a patient in the Pizzamaking.com half-way house, where you can be treated for your condition and be safely released back into society where you can again lead a healthy and productive existence.

Peter

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 07:40:18 AM »
 :-D   You guys are very clever.

Sear, this month I've been married 10 years.  Not perfect, but doing okay.

Pete I AM suffering from some of those symptoms, especially googling for information and thinking nothing of posting in the middle of the night.  :o  All joking aside, I have been an active member of a couple of different hobby forums and have read stories of where ppl get overly consumed with their hobbies and neglect the people around them, to the point of ruining their marriage.  I also have read of some wonderful recoveries where ppl limit their forum usage and spend more time with their loved ones. 

I think a good balance is healthy.  It's good to have healthy hobbies like making and eating pizza...well relatively healthy compared to drowning my problems at the bar or something like that.   It's also good  not to forget I have other responsibilities as a husband and father.

I also try and keep my pizza making as much as I can to myself.  I realize other ppl around me may not really want to hear about the details of pizza making.  That's what I have you guys for!  At least I don't think you guys mind hearing my erratic rantings about pizza.   Thanks for the therapy session.   :chef:
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 08:17:20 AM »
Tranman,

I agree this site helps people to learn more about pizza making, but also gets your interest to a higher level on what can be achieved.  Any hobby or interest can become time consuming.  At least here you can learn to make the most popular eaten food.  PIZZA 

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 10:05:03 AM »

Sear, this month I've been married 10 years.  Not perfect, but doing okay.


I dont know how you get away with that ... more power to ya  ;)

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 10:17:31 AM »
I dont know how you get away with that ... more power to ya  ;)

I think her dad had a lot of hobbies so that makes me having hobbies okay. I also don't drink, gamble, go out with the boys, don't frequent the strip clubs, etc.  So making pizza and cooking for the familiy and friends actually makes her happy.  She loves to entertain and I don't mind cooking.  Cooking gets me out of other responsibilities :).  And b/c I'm not a half bad cook, it works out well.  :D

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 12:04:11 PM »
Yes. Yes. No.

Bake a few pizzas and call me the morning.


Bill, the situation is getting worse.  The more pizzas I make the worse the symptoms.

Here's a look at the fridge of a pizza addict.

1 NY Sicillian pie, 2 experiment doughballs (65% & 74% hydration rate) to be baked tonight.
1 Gluten boy dough ball in the bottom drawer at 6 days.  Will be baked this weekend. 

I'm sick... :'(


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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 01:44:19 PM »
Bill, the situation is getting worse.  The more pizzas I make the worse the symptoms.

I'm afraid your condition will continue to worsen until you hit rock bottom - crawling on the kitchen floor searching for grains of Caputo 00 Pizzeria flour (blue bag) and your breath reeking of fresh mozzarella di bufala. Just pathetic.

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 10:54:30 AM »
The only solution I found is to use a cold (mid-30F water) dough preparation for my NY Style doughs.  This way I have dough in the fridge is good within a day or two, but will last there for almost two weeks.  While the dough taste does get better with time, the fix is usually close at hand.  The funny part is that my family finds doughs in odd places, warming up and proofing quickly so I can get it into the oven in 2-3 hours if necessary.  I'll build a little "hot-house" over a forced air heater vent during the winter.  Yesterday, the family wanted a calzone fix, so I parked a few dough containers out in a parked car.  The interior temperature was monitored and did not go above 95F, so the dough proofed nicely in time for dinner.  Usually, I just pull them out of the fridge in the morning for dinner, but sometimes, ya just gotta have one right now!!!

I need an oven that I can set at 100F to quickly proof doughs.  The lowest temp I can set is 170F.

Jack

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2010, 09:23:27 PM »
Great post.  I can relate to some of your symptoms but not all.  I suppose I just have a mild case.   :-D

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 12:18:06 AM »
Great post.  I can relate to some of your symptoms but not all.  I suppose I just have a mild case.   :-D

THanks PDB.  Just wondering if the following is typical behavior or not.  I just found PennMac thanks to Bill.  Having read all this stuff about all these different tomato products and Caputo flour and wanting to try it all, I ordered....

15 lbs of caputo flour (10lbs pizzeria and 5lbs tipo 00)
2 lbs Polly-O mozz
30 lbs canned pizza sauce (Saporito, Super Dolce, & Pizzaiolo)
40 lbs of canned tomatoes (Alta Cucina, La bella, LaValle, & 6 in 1 ground)

Guess I won't need to buy sauce for awhile... ::)

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 08:02:57 AM »
I'm afraid your condition will continue to worsen until you hit rock bottom - crawling on the kitchen floor searching for grains of Caputo 00 Pizzeria flour (blue bag) and your breath reeking of fresh mozzarella di bufala. Just pathetic.

Bill, that post is brilliant!! Had me laughing for ages :-)

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2010, 01:18:56 PM »
So we ate at a nice Italian restaurant last week.  After sitting us, the waiter ask my 3 yo if she would like some pizza dough to play with.  She said yes so the waiter brought out some scraps that he had balled up. 

Upon seeing this, I asked if my 3 yo would share some with daddy and she did.  I found myself inspecting it like a detective at a crime scene.  I handled the dough gently at first feeling how light or heavy it was.  I tried to window pane it after a warmed up a bit.  I held it up to my nose and smelled it several times.  It was very sweet smelling and smelled more like a sweet bread. I even got so curious I tasted some of the raw dough.   

Seeing all this, my 3 yo was copying my every move smelling the dough and playing with it.  If the dough hadn't been handled so much, I would've even taken some home to bake it up.  Next time I'll have to try their pizza and if its good see if they will sell me a dough ball or two.  My poor wife just rolled her eyes at me.   ::)

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2010, 02:57:58 PM »
My name is Jon, I am  pizza and bbq addict. This is day 1 of my addiction because I fail all the time I have to start over again. I am making pizza tonite and I am afraid I will eat.....oh well, tomorrow I will still be Jon and will still be an addict!! :-D
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 03:23:14 PM »
Hehe Jon. I made pizza last night and today my wife says please no pizza today. With a smirk I said "maybe". I'm fighting off the urge to make dough right now. I'm not sure I can hold off though.

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 06:57:49 PM »
To tell you the truth:  I check this forum about once a day (sometimes more) and often my partner when she sees me on the computer will ask: "What are you looking at?"

The stock answer is: "just looking at some pizza porn..."


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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2010, 07:42:21 PM »
My poor wife just rolled her eyes at me.   ::)

Judge: And what are your reasons for dissolving this marriage?
Chau: Pizza, your honor.  Pizza.
Judge: Pizza?
Chau: Yes, your honor.  The squirrels that broke our glass table put a pretty heavy strain on the relationship, but, basically, it was the pizza.