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Offline doodneyy

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #150 on: March 27, 2011, 03:15:54 AM »
Dooneyy, not sure how long you've been lurking for or just joined, but either way welcome.  I (along with others I'm sure) would love to see a picture of your WFO/ODK setup and the formula and recipe you used to make your pies.  I'm always curious to know what others are doing to see if I can learn something new.  I truely believe that all members have something valuable to offer however great or little it may be.  It helps everyone when there is more info AND pics posted.    ;)  I think you need 5 posts or something like that to post pics.  Do let us know if you have any problems posting pics.

Chau
Thank you.
Haven't been lurking..Just joined the group!
I was looking for some insight on how to manage the oxidation of the dough after it is set out on the counter.
That lead me to the article on you  :D "chau-tran-the-balanced-approach-to-pizza-making"
I doubt you can learn anything from me.  
Looks like you have things under serious control.
Where should I post photos & which kind (dough prep, foldout, finished pizzas)

m.


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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #151 on: March 27, 2011, 11:36:20 AM »
Dooneyy, it sounds like you have been making pizza for awhile.  Any idea how long you've been at it or about how many pies you've made?  If you can do that 80% of the time, I'd say that's pretty dang good.  

You can post pics anywhere that is appropriate.   Scan down and pick out a forum that matches what you want to post pics about...

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php

If it's in the wrong forum or sub-forum the mods can move it but they are busy enough as is so we don't want to create extra work for them.  If you want to show off your ODK/WFO then you can post it in the "pizza making equipment" forum and then in the "pizza ovens" sub forum.  

If you took notes, maybe you can detail your recipe and method for the above pie here.  I'd like to take a look at it.  

Also I am in the process of building an ODK and WFO.  I'm sure you could teach me a lot there.  We are all here to learn from one another and last I check no one here had it ALL together.  

Looking forward to your posts.

Chau

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #152 on: March 27, 2011, 12:17:39 PM »
Just happened to bump into this thread and had to say that you guys are putting out some great pies. doodneyy, welcome to the party and good to see chau (T-man) still in action.I totally agree that ever pie is different and that's why I frown on people's desire to always want a "recipe". The same "recipe" in different hands results in a different end product. Doughs are as variable as the weather and technique always trumps "recipes". I've been unable to make any pies lately as I'm in the process of relocating in a new home, so I appreciate sharing the enthusiasm you all have. I can't wait to fire up an oven again and throw a home made pie the heat box. Save a slice for me would you! ;D
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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #153 on: March 27, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »
Dave,

I know where you are coming from but a recipe does get people on the playing field. From that point on, it is up to the player to perform. A couple of good recent examples of what I am talking about can be seen in the series of posts starting at Reply 36 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,13080.msg128439.html#msg128439 and, more recently, in the series of posts starting at Reply 15 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,12806.msg132091.html#msg132091. Would Andre and Jet attempted their respective pizzas without a recipe? Quite possibly, but maybe not. Or they might have taken their own, but different, course. But, in both cases, the results (http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,13080.msg130280.html#msg130280 and http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,12806.msg132648.html#msg132648) speak for themselves.

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #154 on: March 27, 2011, 01:39:43 PM »
Great point Pete. I'm just saying, don't depend  on "recipes" as a crutch. Learn and you can develop your own "recipes". After all, if one was "the best", we wouldn't need all the rest! ::)
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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #155 on: March 31, 2011, 12:36:00 PM »
I have been at it for years but just the past 1.5 in the wfo.
Recently I am making 12-20 pies a week...yes I am on the Pizza diet!
I have posted a series of photos below that document the pizza I just made this weekend.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 02:22:03 AM by doodneyy »

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #156 on: March 31, 2011, 12:53:16 PM »
Doodneyy, your dough looks fantastic.  Very soft and strong.  What flour are you using there and how long are you mixing for?

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #157 on: March 31, 2011, 12:59:01 PM »
Doodneyy, your dough looks fantastic.  Very soft and strong.  What flour are you using there and how long are you mixing for?
Is it appropriate to post so many pics in an individual post?

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #158 on: March 31, 2011, 01:43:01 PM »
Is it appropriate to post so many pics in an individual post?

Yes! :) I post as many as I can get away with. ;)


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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #159 on: April 01, 2011, 02:47:17 AM »
Yes! :) I post as many as I can get away with. ;)
856gr flour
440gr h2o
30gr h2o (100-110 degrees)
3/4 ts IDY added to the above (30 gr h2o)
290gr Starter of your choice
I know it is wackkoo but after months of writing down 40 different variations & cooking 40 different doughs this
one worked all the time.
Most people like round #'s but ...hey...that is why they invented digital scales to 1 gm.

m.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 03:07:58 AM by doodneyy »

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #160 on: April 01, 2011, 03:01:04 AM »
 ;D
I put all the flour but 85gr in the bowl.
Mix in salt ( sea salt)
Add all liquids...(including the 30gm h2o that the idy is dissolved in)
Add starter
I mix at low speed for 3-4 minutes
Let sit covered with a towel for 30-40 min
Mix again for 4-8 min.
At this point you can add the additional flour in small amounts. (You may not necessarily end up adding any or all the flour.)
Pour out & form into a ball to proof.  
Minimum proof 24 hrs in a cold frig,

m.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 10:14:05 PM by doodneyy »

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #161 on: April 17, 2011, 08:01:33 AM »
Thanks for posting this Doodneyy.  I completely missed it the first time around.   ???  I will have a study as soon as things settle down a bit.

Cheers,
Chau

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #162 on: April 29, 2011, 03:20:46 AM »
Tonight...


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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #163 on: May 06, 2011, 03:27:00 AM »
Not dry at all.  I am able to now replicate this 80% of the time.
My main factors have been the length of time I am able to leave the dough out before I have to feed everyone & the weather. 
I live in Seattle & well ya know it's wet & windy here that effects the wfo.
Ok...I did not tell the truth...it is 96%...but there is A dilemma...

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #164 on: June 22, 2011, 01:20:52 AM »
The Fires are very Hot!

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #165 on: June 22, 2011, 08:02:44 AM »
It looks like an inferno in there.  I like the leoparding.  Nice job.

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #166 on: June 22, 2011, 08:44:51 AM »
What are the round green things?
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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #167 on: June 22, 2011, 04:28:17 PM »
Doodneyy, those are some of the coolest pictures of the oven in progress I have seen.  Pies look great too!
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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #168 on: June 22, 2011, 10:58:14 PM »
What are the round green things?
Jet.. they are fresh English shelled peas. 

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #169 on: June 22, 2011, 10:59:13 PM »
Doodneyy, those are some of the coolest pictures of the oven in progress I have seen.  Pies look great too!
Thank you very much.
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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #170 on: June 22, 2011, 11:19:41 PM »
It looks like an inferno in there.  I like the leoparding.  Nice job.
Good hearing from the master again... How's the heat in your new set up.
I have not seen any pics posted about...

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #171 on: July 10, 2011, 02:19:49 AM »
The fires were Hot tonight..

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #172 on: July 10, 2011, 11:01:57 AM »
The fires were Hot tonight..

Miam yummy!

This crust with butter would get rid of my morning toasts! ;D


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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #173 on: July 10, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »
Good hearing from the master again... How's the heat in your new set up.
I have not seen any pics posted about...

Thanks Doodneyy, I have been posting pics of my WFO pies here....

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=14201.0

This elusive perfect pie was a project trying to duplicate a really GREAT pizza I made in the home oven when I first started making pizza after a few months.  It was one of those accidental yet eye opening pizzas.  The crust completely blew me away.  It will always be seared into my memory.  It was as good if not better than some of the WFO pies I make now.  As time goes on and I am slowly improving, I feel as though I have a bit more understanding of how that pizza came to be.   Maybe someday soon I will give it another crack and post it up here.  

The interesting thing is that I spent a lot of time and energy after that trying out all the different techniques I came across, blending bits and pieces of this and that recipe trying to replicate that pizza without success.   The way I make pizza now is very reminiscent of the methods I tried out for the first time when making that first perfect pie.  I had no idea what I was doing at that time and just trying new things.  

Chau

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Re: That elusive yet "Perfect" pie
« Reply #174 on: July 12, 2011, 01:24:04 AM »
Well my friend...as I have said..you are a poet!

I do believe that you are making the same pie you made when making "That elusive yet "Perfect" pie"
(I did mention that once you got your wfo you would be in another league..)

If you crave to have more of your pizza the next day then you are there...
It's not the same to dream about it..... it has to come from craving for yet another piece..
To close your eyes & ......
One actually salivates for that...yet.. "additional piece".

Your pics are spot on & I can tell by the poof/char that you are "elusive" yet forgiving of yourself because you
have yet "The Perfect Pie"

m.


 

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