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Making your own dough sheeter
« on: March 29, 2005, 09:09:54 AM »
For those that like a thin/crispy pizza:  do you own your own sheeter?  If not, have you thought about trying to make a manually-operated one?

I dabble in woodworking and I am mechanically-inclined (whatever that means).  After seeing that there are no manual dough sheeters out there, aside from a rolling pin,  and since I'm not willing to part with $600-5000 for a real dough sheeter,  I've decided to try and build one from scratch.  I will post any progress I have on it here.

I have one of those hand-cranked pasta machines from Italy.  I've had it for 15 years and use it to make pasta - it's great.  It has a sheeter on it, but it's only about 6" wide.  I wrote the company and asked if they had a larger one for pizza and they don't;  obviously in Italy,  sheeters are not used,  and not needed for making a margherita-type pies. 

If anyone out there wants to elaborate with me on building this,  drop me an email or post here.  Thanks - Mark

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 08:22:02 AM »
Good luck and please post your results.  I cannot help you since my woodworking is so beginning as to be nearly nonexistant, but I'll be anxiously watching to see what you come up with.  Do you think you'll model it after a wooden tortilla press? (http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/tortillapress.htm and http://www.coolchile.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=WTP&Category_Code=StCup)

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 08:40:45 AM »
Eric -  I was thinking along the lines of an old clothes washer ringer, like they had back in the late 18th century / early 20th.  Two rollers, one with a crank handle and some way to adjust the clearance between the pins.  It's still in the idea-stage, but hopefully, I'll be able to make a prototype.   I'm really surprised some chinese company isn't making these.   

ps -  Well I'm gonna to go then! And I don't need any of this! I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this [picks up an ashtray] and that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this! The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this! And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.


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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2005, 09:16:04 AM »
pizzaluvr:

I think you might have some issues  ??? :-\
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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 08:31:01 AM »
ps -  Well I'm gonna to go then! And I don't need any of this! I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this [picks up an ashtray] and that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this! The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this! And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.

And this dough sheeter.... the ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine, the chair, and this dough sheeter.  ;D

Seriously, though... I'd LOVE to see your prototype!!

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 10:03:45 AM »
pizzaluvr:  I see, the clothes wringer type would be neat too.  and it'd probably take up less space than the overgrown tortilla press version.  Keep us posted, hopefully with pictures and plans!

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 12:15:13 PM »
Just thinking outside of the box... instead of the somewhat more complicated design of the two-roller clothes ringer, why not eliminate one of the rollers with an approach like this:

(http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ejones/tony/rollers/rpics/ab1.jpeg)

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2005, 08:05:24 AM »
Just thinking outside of the box... instead of the somewhat more complicated design of the two-roller clothes ringer, why not eliminate one of the rollers with an approach like this:


Not a bad idea !   I was sort of thinking that too, as I was struggling to roll out my dough yesterday, wishing I'd had two steel plates that I could put the dough in between and then drive over with my car.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 09:42:51 AM »
Not a bad idea !   I was sort of thinking that too, as I was struggling to roll out my dough yesterday, wishing I'd had two steel plates that I could put the dough in between and then drive over with my car.

Mark

That would be OK, I guess, but if you had an actual steam roller I think you could really achieve a thin crust.  JMHO.

Another possibility would be to use one of those presses they use to make diamonds.  I understand those can produce something like a million pounds of pressure per square inch.  Imagine how thin that dough would be.


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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2005, 10:56:51 AM »
This place still sells them.
http://www.lehmans.com/index.jsp

search Wringer washer

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2005, 12:29:04 PM »
This place still sells them.
http://www.lehmans.com/index.jsp

search Wringer washer


Randy - thanks for the link.  That's what I had in mind, but those are a little pricey.  I'm gonna try and find one in a junk shop or flea market and maybe put new maple rollers on it.  I'd like to keep it at or below $50.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2005, 01:11:15 PM »
Mark, ya, I thought they were stiff.  Seems to me you could still buy those machines through the sixties and they were normally bottom of the line.

 I do have a thought for you.  I noticed when trying to roll out this dough that if you can hold the opposite side it does not spring back as bad.  How about turning a one handed roller so the other hand could hold the dough.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2005, 11:29:52 AM »
Eric -  I was thinking along the lines of an old clothes washer ringer, like they had back in the late 18th century / early 20th.  Two rollers, one with a crank handle and some way to adjust the clearance between the pins.  It's still in the idea-stage, but hopefully, I'll be able to make a prototype.   I'm really surprised some chinese company isn't making these.   

ps -  Well I'm gonna to go then! And I don't need any of this! I don't need this stuff, and I don't need you. I don't need anything except this [picks up an ashtray] and that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this! The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this! And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.


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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2005, 12:15:46 PM »
That's really good pizza-in-a-cup.

Ha!  I had completely forgotten that part!  Thanks for reminding me!

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2005, 03:11:31 PM »
Found you looking to make my own dough sheeter.  I already thought of the wringer thing, but they're too small. How about using the steel rollers from one of those wood working stands that holds up your wood while you cut it? Still a problem with adjusting the rollers though. Keep us posted. I want one too.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2005, 09:08:33 AM »
I did a Froogle search for "manual dough sheeter" and came up with one interesting return.  Unfortunately, it was a used item and was sold out, but it is just the sort of thing I think many of us would fork over $100 for.   In the meantime, I will keep thinking about building one.  Mark

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2005, 10:21:39 PM »
have you tried e-bay


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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2007, 02:03:44 AM »
I realize this topic is pretty old, but in case anyone is still interested in making their own dough sheeter, I found a place where you can purchase some instructions on making your own slip roll, which is a similar piece of equipment used for bending sheet metal. I haven't purchased the book or even used a slip roll, but I thought someone more mechanically inclined might give it a shot.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2007, 02:06:07 AM »
Sorry, forgot to include the link!!

www[dot]runforcoverbooks[dot]com/si/21731[dot]html

(you'll have to replace the text "[dot]" with the text ".")

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2007, 12:45:47 PM »
why not just use a pizza press and mash the heck out of the dough til you get it as thin as you want??

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2007, 08:28:28 PM »
why not just use a pizza press and mash the heck out of the dough til you get it as thin as you want??

All of the pizza and/or tortilla presses I've seen have been extremely expensive (usually $2000 or more). Dough sheeters are also in the same neighborhood. I'm not exactly sure why the these machines are so expensive or why the makers of pasta rollers (which are about $30) can't simply make one that's 12" instead of 6" wide.

Anyway, if you know of pizza press for less than $200 I'd be all ears.
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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 03:20:08 PM »
I am in the process of getting some prices from a friend who works at local machine shop on what it would take to produce a prototype ~16 " wide.

The best one I have seen is at www.piemaster.com under dough rollers I think. It's $1500+ tax+ shipping, but that will give you an idea of what can be involved in making one yourself. My design will be much less fancy, and far cheaper.

The issues with cost so far have been two main things:1) materials and 2) labor. Materials are expensive because you need to use a nice quality stainless steel for the rollers. Hollow or solid we haven't decided yet, but the forces it needs to take are fairly high on a 16" spread without bending or "flexing". In terms of labor, this is really a "one-off" type of unit and doesn't make sense to outsource to China or Mexico where parts are cheap. Since the demand for production just isn't high,  you'll end up getting something "made in the USA" where we have a relatively high labor cost unless you have a friend, relative, or do it yourself.

Hopefully I can get something going at a reasonable cost. I still think a tweaked slip roll is going to be the way to go on this.

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2007, 09:12:05 PM »
That sounds great Dan and I would certainly be interested

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2007, 10:56:43 AM »
I realize this topic is pretty old, but in case anyone is still interested in making their own dough sheeter, I found a place where you can purchase some instructions on making your own slip roll, which is a similar piece of equipment used for bending sheet metal. I haven't purchased the book or even used a slip roll, but I thought someone more mechanically inclined might give it a shot.

Dave

Hmmm, how about an english wheel, then you could keep the outer edges thicker for a nicer crust. <half joking>

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Re: Making your own dough sheeter
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2008, 10:19:49 PM »
This topic has really gotten my creative juices flowing.  It would be easy to get two round cylinders (either a couple of large wooden rolling pins or some steel pipe) and get them axle'd so that they'd rotate on a fixed point.  Put a handle on one so that it could be manually turned, and leave the other one free-spinning.  Doing that on a fixed gap would be easy.  I'm thinking some kind of angle-iron frame would be an easy design.  And, with a larger angle-iron, it could be cut with a hack-saw or jig saw and bolted together without needing any welding.  Drilling would be good enough for the axles - since we're not talking about a very heavily used machine, one would not even need bearings.

But, enhancements would make it more complex. 

If you want to have the bottom (or top) roller (the non-handled one) adjustable so that you could adjust the gap (dough thickness), then one would have to put a screw/bolt mounting between the top & bottom rollers.  Not terribly difficult, but definitely more complex.  Maybe making the frame in two separate parts (upper & lower) and then attaching them via a screw mechanism on both sides so that the gap would be adjustable.  Part of the complexity of this would be to mount the nut on one of the frame pieces so that the screw piece would properly attach.  This would probably need to be welded to withstand the pressure of rolling thick dough.  And, there would need to be one on each side, so that the adjustment could be kept even on both sides.  Plus, a spring should be installed (on each side) so that the adjustable roller would not be completely free-floating, tho it might not matter because the dough would spread the rollers out.

But, the hardest thing would be to get the second roller to turn in an opposite direction and at the same rate as the top roller. 
  • One way would be to put a handle on the other end of the other roller so that they could be manually cranked at the same time.
  • Another way would be to attach a pair of motors going in opposite directions and at the same speed, but this would require a more complex mounting frame, multiple electrical cords, and a pair of motors that would have to spin at the same rate (more than just being "rated" at the same speed) - thus increasing the price beyond what I'd want to pay for something that we'd only use twice a month.
  • Using interlocking gears to gear one to work off the other would be fine - IF the gap were not adjustable.
  • Maybe having the "free-spinning" roller on a bearing would be all that's necessary.

I'll have to sleep on this, think about some 2" angle iron, a couple of wooden rolling pins, a handle, and try to visualize how to adjust the gap.  My FIL says he can weld bubblegum to a watermelon, so this may not be too complex of a project.  Wish I had seen this yesterday because we were out there today & it'd have been nothing for me to appropriate a couple of pieces of angle iron to use in visualizing this setup.  Well, at least it's on my mind now, and I can continue trying to visualize the assembly.

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