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Offline hotsawce

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2010, 05:44:57 PM »
Matt,

How was the real Fior Di Latte, and how would one go about making this cheese at home? I actually want to get my hands on it to see how it melts and tastes. This also makes me wonder, could one get the curd texture of Fior Di Latte with Buffalo milk?

As for the tomato issue, I truly believe any fresh tomato will blow away any canned tomato. Personally, I don't find a huge difference in the canned tomatoes.
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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2010, 06:18:46 PM »
Matt,

How was the real Fior Di Latte, and how would one go about making this cheese at home? I actually want to get my hands on it to see how it melts and tastes. This also makes me wonder, could one get the curd texture of Fior Di Latte with Buffalo milk?

As for the tomato issue, I truly believe any fresh tomato will blow away any canned tomato. Personally, I don't find a huge difference in the canned tomatoes.

I have not tried it as it's a proprietary product & made solely for Neapolitan pizzeria's.  For a visual, I have posted a couple of pictures below.  Both pizzerias have the exact same ovens that run at the same temperatures, the same dough regimen & buy their cheese from this company.  The pizza in the top picture is with traditional stretched & balled fior di latte & the second picture is made with the unstretched virgin product.

I am not an expert on cheese, but to answer your second question, I don't think that you would be able to produce such a product using buffalo milk.

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2010, 06:13:21 AM »
A liitle bit on San Marzano tomatoes:

The tomato is originally from Central America. It arrived in Europe in 1600, imported by the Spaniards which had given the tomato ornamental value. Maybe, it is for this reason that it has not maintained its original name "tomate". But it has been named pomo d'oro "apple of gold". In 1700, according to the latest evidence from the oral tradition, it arrived in Italy as a gift from the Kingdom of Peru to the Kingdom of Naples and would have been planted in the area which corresponds with the town of San Marzano.In 1900, it became highly praised from a gastronomical point of view, and the first industries of preservation were developed.

The San Marzano D.O.P.
The technique of cultivation is vertical with the utilisation of planks, respects the secular tradition, so that the produce remains whole. The harvest is then collected by hand, one by one. It is a Typical product of Campania and it constitutes an important citation for those who would like to nourish themselves withproducts from the Mediterranean diet. An ideal traditional diet, culture, pleasure, socialization and balance.


DOP
(Seal of authenticity), brand obtained in 1996 on behalf of the European Union. It is the acknowledgment assigned to agricultural products and food in which the phases of the productive process are realized in a restricted geographical area and in which the productive process results in conforming to a discipline of production.







 

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2010, 06:41:07 AM »
With all due respect to Tscarborough I disagree with your comment "Grow tomatoes or jalapenos?!  It makes no sense, since they are so cheap to buy local and organic."   I don't know what type of tomatoes you have grown but the heirlooms cost about $6/lb here and there is NOTHING like picking a few of them in August grabbing a little fresh basil, drizzling some EVOO & balsamic on them & eating. It may be psychological but to me mine taste the best.  I have  a huge garden & grow lots of veggies but tomatoes are the #1 reason I garden.
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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2010, 12:34:56 PM »
I used to do the same, but I just got lazy, I guess.  I generally get as many home-grown tomatoes as I can use from friends and neighbors, but I don't usually use them for sauce.  All I grow now are basil, chilie petin, and thyme.

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2010, 05:07:29 PM »
Yeah Jackie

Im a bit confused about the Alta Cucina line.  I heard through the grapevine that the AC line is Stanislaus's seconds.  I asked them that in my Cali visit and they said that this wasn't true.  So, maybe you are correct.


Gabaghool, Welcome gto the forum.   These are some of my favorite tomatoes too.  Alta Cucina is not a line, and definitely not seconds.  There is only one Alta Cuciana product, and it is whole peeled plum tomatoes.    The other whole peeled product Stanislaus offers is the Valoroso, which is a whole peeled pear tomato, and it is packed in a thicker puree than the alta cucina.   The Alta's are billed as the companies answer to San marzanos, but neither one tastes anything like a San marzano to me.  They are both very high quality products and slightly different.  In my opinion the alta cucina tomatoes are more tangy, while the valoroso are a little more "dry" and deeper flavored.   

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2010, 05:32:34 PM »

Maybe, it is for this reason that it has not maintained its original name "tomate".


I don't know why it hasn't kept its name, but in German it's still called "Tomate". "Eine Tomate, zwei Tomaten..." and so forth  ;D
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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2011, 04:54:56 PM »
Hi there. I am thinking of using Agri Genus dop san marzano in my restaurant that I am about to open. Not tried them yet but was interested in your thoughts?? Thankyou

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Re: Canned tomatoes, don't buy the hype.
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2012, 05:41:43 PM »
The last time I checked, Italy EXPORTED more tons of tomatoes than it grew................


 

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