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Offline Tony Pizzeria

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ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« on: August 30, 2010, 07:37:15 PM »
ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 07:57:35 PM »
Tony,

There is only one basic Lehmann NY style dough formulation. It is at http://www.pmq.com/tt2/recipe/view/id_151/title_New-York-Style-Pizza/. As you will see, that formulation is susceptible to many different forms and variations. If I had to guess, there are perhaps over a few hundred versions of the basic Lehmann recipe on the forum.

If you can tell me what ingredients you have on hand, how many dough balls you need, what size pizzas you want to make, whether you favor a thin crust or a thicker crust (but still within the NY style), and how you would bake the pizzas (e.g., type of oven, stone, pizza screen, etc.), maybe I can come up with something for you to consider. You might look at the expanded dough calculating tool at http://www.pizzamaking.com/expanded_calculator.html to get an idea as to the possibiities in terms of ingredients.

Peter

EDIT (3/22/13): For the updated link to the PMQ recipe, see http://www.pmq.com/Recipe-Bank/index.php/name/New-York-Style-Pizza/record/57724/
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 12:03:53 PM »
Thanks peter I am using KABF TDY bottle water and using a 2 stone oven or 550 electric oven. The reason I gave both is that I am in Sun City AZ and this time of year it can be 112 out where the 2-stone is. Needless to say I would be making the pizza inside.
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 12:32:20 PM »
Tony,

If you can answer all of the questions I posed in my last reply, I should be able to come up with something for you to try.

Peter

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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 01:12:38 PM »
Tony,

There is only one basic Lehmann NY style dough formulation. It is at http://www.pmq.com/tt2/recipe/view/id_151/title_New-York-Style-Pizza/. As you will see, that formulation is susceptible to many different forms and variations. If I had to guess, there are perhaps over a few hundred versions of the basic Lehmann recipe on the forum.

If you can tell me what ingredients you have on hand, how many dough balls you need, what size pizzas you want to make, whether you favor a thin crust or a thicker crust (but still within the NY style), and how you would bake the pizzas (e.g., type of oven, stone, pizza screen, etc.), maybe I can come up with something for you to consider. You might look at the expanded dough calculating tool at http://www.pizzamaking.com/expanded_calculator.html to get an idea as to the possibiities in terms of ingredients.

Peter

Sorry i did not answer all. In addition to the flour ovens and yeast above, I want a real thin pie maybe 7 or 8, 12 inch and 4 dough balls,


EDIT (3/22/13): For the updated link to the PMQ recipe, see http://www.pmq.com/Recipe-Bank/index.php/name/New-York-Style-Pizza/record/57724/
« Last Edit: March 22, 2013, 09:35:10 AM by Pete-zza »
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 01:27:02 PM »
Tony,

I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand this statement: "I want a real thin pie maybe 7 or 8, 12 inch and 4 dough balls". Does the "7 or 8" mean a thickness factor of 0.07 or 0.08?

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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 01:39:44 PM »
Yes the thickness 0.07 or 0.08
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 02:25:23 PM »
Tony,

I have set forth below two dough formulations, one using a thickness factor of 0.07 and the other using a thickness factor of 0.07, for four dough balls for making four 12" pizzas. I also used a bowl residue compensation of 1.5% to compensate for minor dough losses during the preparation of the dough, and I have set forth the targeted dough ball weights you want to use. I used the expanded dough calculating tool at http://www.pizzamaking.com/expanded_calculator.html to do the calculations. Depending on your results, you can make future changes to the dough formulations if needed by using the expanded dough calculating tool. For example, many members like to use more oil than 1% (e.g., up to 3%), and some members like to use a bit of sugar (typically 1-2%), especially for a dough that is to cold ferment for a few days before using. I would not recommend sugar for doughs that are to ferment for periods less than two or three days. Too much sugar in the dough at the time of baking can lead to premature bottom crust browning or even burning before the rest of the pizza is done. That will depend on the type of oven/pizza stone that is to be used and the oven's operating temperature. Usually 1-2% sugar in a standard home oven with a pizza stone is not a problem. However, it might be with your 2Stone unit.

In the dough formulations presented below, I used IDY at 0.30%. I selected that figure because of the hot climate where you are in Arizona, which can have the tendency to speed up the fermentation process. In the winter, I would use around 0.375-0.40% IDY, and use the expanded dough calculating tool to revise the dough formulations for the higher values of IDY. With some experimentation, you should be able to come up with the optimum amounts of yeast to use in your setting. If you use a water temperature to achieve a finished dough temperature of around 75-80 degrees F, the 0.30% IDY should give you up to three days of cold fermentation. You would use more yeast to shorten the fermentation period and less yeast to increase the fermentation period.

King Arthur Bread Flour (100%):
Water (62%):
IDY (0.30%):
Salt (1.75%):
Olive Oil (1%):
Total (165.05%):
Single Ball:
552.1 g  |  19.47 oz | 1.22 lbs
342.3 g  |  12.07 oz | 0.75 lbs
1.66 g | 0.06 oz | 0 lbs | 0.55 tsp | 0.18 tbsp
9.66 g | 0.34 oz | 0.02 lbs | 1.73 tsp | 0.58 tbsp
5.52 g | 0.19 oz | 0.01 lbs | 1.23 tsp | 0.41 tbsp
911.23 g | 32.14 oz | 2.01 lbs | TF = 0.07105
227.81 g | 8.04 oz | 0.5 lbs
Note: Dough is for four dough balls for four 12" pizzas; nominal thickness factor = 0.07 (target dough ball weight = 224.44 g/7.92 oz); bowl residue compensation = 1.5%

King Arthur Bread Flour (100%):
Water (62%):
IDY (0.30%):
Salt (1.75%):
Olive Oil (1%):
Total (165.05%):
Single Ball:
630.97 g  |  22.26 oz | 1.39 lbs
391.2 g  |  13.8 oz | 0.86 lbs
1.89 g | 0.07 oz | 0 lbs | 0.63 tsp | 0.21 tbsp
11.04 g | 0.39 oz | 0.02 lbs | 1.98 tsp | 0.66 tbsp
6.31 g | 0.22 oz | 0.01 lbs | 1.4 tsp | 0.47 tbsp
1041.41 g | 36.73 oz | 2.3 lbs | TF = 0.0812
260.35 g | 9.18 oz | 0.57 lbs
Note: Dough is for four dough balls for four 12" pizzas; nominal thickness factor = 0.08 (target dough ball weight = 256.5 g/9.05 oz); bowl residue compensation = 1.5%

Peter


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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 03:26:12 PM »
Peter
Thank you so much, I am away now and can't try this until I get back home. When I do I will let you know the results. Do I just follow the mixing directions on the Lehman board to mix?. Once again thanks.
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Re: ISO the latest recipe for Lehmann NY Style Pizza
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 04:26:48 PM »
Do I just follow the mixing directions on the Lehman board to mix

Tiny,

Yes, you can follow the general instructions that accompany the PMQ Lehmann recipe referenced above but you will have to use a knead time that yields the proper finished dough condition in your case for your dough batch size. Also, if you wish, you can add the oil to the water instead of adding it later to the dough.

Peter


 



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