New York Pizza

[bopplayer]

Hi,

Is there a book, video or web site that shows how to make a good New York style pizza?
For beginner cooking challenged men? can you make this type pizza in a regular oven?
or do I need some special oven? and where do you get good dough?

Thanks

[Pete-zza]

bopplayer,

For newbies who are interested in a NY style made in a standard unmodified home oven, I normally suggest that they read the thread at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,2223.msg19503.html#msg19503. The basic NY style dough recipe described there, starting in Reply 8, is one that is quite popular among our members (the Lehmann NY style). However, I recently created a collection of many other NY style dough recipes. That collection can be examined at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,11860.0.html. As a newbie, you might take a look at the photos for the different recipes to see if there is a particular NY style that most appeals to you, at least visually, and then determine whether you have the ingredients and equipment needed to practice the recipe.

There is also a collection of emergency (same day) dough recipes that might interest you also, including some NY style dough recipes, at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,8297.0.html. Some new members like to try such recipes before deciding whether they would like to move on to more advanced dough making methods and recipes.

Peter

[DenaliPete]

Bopplayer,

If you do not have a kitchen scale or are prone to using volumetric measurements, I would recommend giving my recipe a shot.

It is certainly more of an emergency dough because it involves a large amount of sugar and yeast to allow for it to be used the same day.

This recipe largely goes by feel though, as I have been careless in updating the recipe to more accurate weight and volume measurements. 

However, the dough does make great same day pizza or bread.  I typically make 3-4 dough balls per batch.

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,7405.msg63813.html#msg63813

[bopplayer]

Thanks, also I called an upscale grocery store, they don't know which flour is the highest gluten, what should I get? brands? thanks

[DenaliPete]

King Arthurs Sir Lancelot or All Trumps I believe have the highest gluten content.

I don't have access to either, I just use King Arthurs bread flour.

[Essen1]

If you don't mind paying the shipping costs, you can get the AT here:

http://www.pennmac.com/items/3938

Or the KASL here:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/king-arthur-sir-lancelot-unbleached-hi-gluten-flour-3-lb

I guess, though, that the shipping in both instances is more than the price of the flour. That's the downside.

[scott123]

Restaurant Depot in Minneapolis will carry All Trumps. It's wholesale, but with a few loopholes. If you know someone with a business/tax id, that's the best option.  Some Restaurant Depots are known to give out one day passes to the public.  I get the feeling that it all boils down to who's working the front desk.  Instead of saying "I don't own a business, but I'd like to buy some stuff," I'd say something along the lines of "I'm in the process of getting my catering license and would like to buy a few things."  It's worth trying.  Not only will they have All Trumps, but it will be the best price in the area.

Some Costcos carry All Trumps.  If you have a membership, I'd give them a call.

Sam's Club has a house brand Bakers & Chefs High Gluten Flour.  It doesn't have the protein of All Trumps, but if that's your only option, it's better than King Arthur.

If you google wholesale grocer minneapolis, it will give you a map with locations. Click on 'more results' and start calling everyone on the list.  Ask them if they sell to the public, and, if so, do they carry high gluten flour.

Lastly, there's always a chance a local bakery will order an extra bag of flour for you.  They might mark it up a bit, but it will probably be less than having flour shipped.