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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #275 on: April 21, 2015, 07:08:46 PM »
Interesting. I have been using Great Value crushed and never had any skins floating around.

  That's because there aren't any....the late , great Classico crushed didn't have any either.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #276 on: April 26, 2015, 11:03:12 PM »
Recently, I purchased the book, " The Complete America's Test Kitchen TV Show Cookbook 2011-2015", for the many great recipes that it contains. I really recommend this book to anyone. I love it. On pages 332- 344, they provide pizza recipes for dough and sauces. Here is a sauce recipe for New York-Style Thin Crust Pizza, on page 333 of the book.

1 (28 ounce) can whole tomatoes, drained
1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
2 medium garlic cloves, minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
1 teaspoon red wine vinegar
1 teaspoon table salt
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper


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I have high hopes. I like the flavor of the crushed, but I don't particularly like the skin bits that come in crushed tomatoes.

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????

I have them, but I want to try them on pizza, and I haven't made any since I got them. Hold tight.
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Crushed, skin bits and all.

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Crushed, skin bits and all.

The other day, I passed some crushed through a food mill with the fine plate, it it came out really nice.
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I've only had the crushed. After I wrote the post, I figured I should try the whole too. I have some inbound now.

I did not like the Sclafani whole peeled. They are completely different from the crushed. I will not buy these again.  I'll write a more comprehensive post later.
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It's been commented in the past that crushed tomatoes are sweeter and more flavorful because they use the ripest and softest tomatoes that don't work well for whole peeled. After seeing these, I definately believe that is true for Sclafani. These tomatoes were all perfectly shaped, very firm, and defect free. There was not a soft or broken one in the whole can. They were just barely ripe to slightly under-ripe. To get them to go into the food mill, I literally had to push them in with my fingers. there were so firm that they wouldn't squeeze in on their own. I used the medium plate, and literally 25% of the can would not go through. All that came out was juice and everythign firm was sitting on top of the plate. I switched to the coarse plate and pushing very hard, I was able to get most of it through. It made for a very chunky sauce. The flavor was just OK. I've had better and worse. On a pizza, the sauce was pretty watery/chunky. I'll post some pics in the Garage thread later. I won't get these again. They don't even begin to compare to the Sclafani crushed.
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It's been commented in the past that crushed tomatoes are sweeter and more flavorful because they use the ripest and softest tomatoes that don't work well for whole peeled. After seeing these, I definately believe that is true for Sclafani. These tomatoes were all perfectly shaped, very firm, and defect free. There was not a soft or broken one in the whole can. They were just barely ripe to slightly under-ripe. To get them to go into the food mill, I literally had to push them in with my fingers. there were so firm that they wouldn't squeeze in on their own. I used the medium plate, and literally 25% of the can would not go through. All that came out was juice and everythign firm was sitting on top of the plate. I switched to the coarse plate and pushing very hard, I was able to get most of it through. It made for a very chunky sauce. The flavor was just OK. I've had better and worse. On a pizza, the sauce was pretty watery/chunky. I'll post some pics in the Garage thread later. I won't get these again. They don't even begin to compare to the Sclafani crushed.

Whew, Good thing I held on... Tks for your review and evaluation Craig. For pizza sauce, looks like crushed is the better option.
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I did not like the Sclafani whole peeled. They are completely different from the crushed. I will not buy these again.  I'll write a more comprehensive post later.

I prefer the crushed too, but I don't think I dislike the whole as much as you.  I get a case discount at my local Italian store.  I buy eight crushed and four whole.  Yours don't look very ripe.  What lot is that?
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I prefer the crushed too, but I don't think I dislike the whole as much as you.  I get a case discount at my local Italian store.  I buy eight crushed and four whole.  Yours don't look very ripe.  What lot is that?


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Thems is past their best!  Best by on mine is Sep 12 2016.  I was using 6 in 1 two years ago.

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That wasn't their problem.
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That wasn't their problem.

I wasn't suggesting it was.  The current batch is pretty good.  Like wine,  I find that some years just aren't good.  That's when I change up brands.  I went from Sclafani to 6 in 1 two years ago.
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It's been commented in the past that crushed tomatoes are sweeter and more flavorful because they use the ripest and softest tomatoes that don't work well for whole peeled. After seeing these, I definately believe that is true for Sclafani. These tomatoes were all perfectly shaped, very firm, and defect free. There was not a soft or broken one in the whole can. They were just barely ripe to slightly under-ripe. To get them to go into the food mill, I literally had to push them in with my fingers. there were so firm that they wouldn't squeeze in on their own. I used the medium plate, and literally 25% of the can would not go through. All that came out was juice and everythign firm was sitting on top of the plate. I switched to the coarse plate and pushing very hard, I was able to get most of it through. It made for a very chunky sauce. The flavor was just OK. I've had better and worse. On a pizza, the sauce was pretty watery/chunky. I'll post some pics in the Garage thread later. I won't get these again. They don't even begin to compare to the Sclafani crushed.

Pics of pies made with the Sclafani WP here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=14249.msg379254#msg379254
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On our pizzas we use any can of Italian tomatoes we can get from the local delis. We know which ones to avoid as they seem to have a higher amount of water in the juice. Even the better brands we find have better time of the year. Meaning the tomatoes are more flavourful less watery and not as acidic. what we do is drain some of the liquid from the can the place the rest of tomatoes and juice in a bowl. With a potato  masher is mash up the tomatoes. add some salt crushed garlic , fresh parsley, basil, hot pepper flakes, and olive oil. Thats it.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #291 on: August 01, 2015, 04:48:39 PM »
It's been commented in the past that crushed tomatoes are sweeter and more flavorful because they use the ripest and softest tomatoes that don't work well for whole peeled. After seeing these, I definately believe that is true for Sclafani. These tomatoes were all perfectly shaped, very firm, and defect free. There was not a soft or broken one in the whole can. They were just barely ripe to slightly under-ripe. To get them to go into the food mill, I literally had to push them in with my fingers. there were so firm that they wouldn't squeeze in on their own. I used the medium plate, and literally 25% of the can would not go through. All that came out was juice and everythign firm was sitting on top of the plate. I switched to the coarse plate and pushing very hard, I was able to get most of it through. It made for a very chunky sauce. The flavor was just OK. I've had better and worse. On a pizza, the sauce was pretty watery/chunky. I'll post some pics in the Garage thread later. I won't get these again. They don't even begin to compare to the Sclafani crushed.

Had the exact same thing happen with some Solania's I tried once. I have a pretty nice selection of tomatoes at the local independent grocer and will try the crushed Scalfani. I know they have a few different Scalfani's so I'll look for the NY ones. They also have Strianese, Cento, Bionaturae, Cento, Muir Glen, Gia Russa, and some others I'm sure I'm forgetting. Albertsons has Carmelina's. I want to try 6 in 1 but haven't seen them so will have to order direct to try. 

I love the fire roasted tomatoes and will have to see if Costco has any. That price is a steal. I used them once on a pizza with just salt.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #292 on: August 02, 2015, 04:14:49 AM »
I made two pizzas tonight with the sauce that I made with CENTO tomatoes and paste. Everyone loved it. I definitely will do this sauce again for sure. I plan to use tomato paste when making sauce in the future.. (including the splash of good Red Wine)

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1 can CENTO SM Tomatoes (28 oz)
1/3 of the tube of CENTO Tomato paste, or until it seems thick enough for you.
Salt, Sugar to taste.
A little Garlic powered or granulated garlic (1/2 teaspoon, maybe even less)
1 Tablespoon of Dry basil (or more/less if you like)
Blend up fine (I use a Vitamix and have learned to put the lid on)

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,22498.msg277584.html#msg277584


I'm definitely going to try this out two days from now. I've been searching the the best possible sauce recipe to fit my liking.

Luckily I have both Cento Paste and San Marzano on hand. I can't wait!