I was at a local thrift store yesterday, there was a new brand new Oster model 5833 for under $7 since I already have about 15 of them, I passed on the deal, gave most of them away to my kids and relations, I am down to about 8 of them, My favorite is the Breadman Ultimate, this has good power. deep pan and does not generally bog down when get into around 4 pounds plus. I started using bread machines around 3 yrs ago, and yhey do the trick for me, my next step is to make a dough mixer, still working on the plans and looking around for the right size stainless bowl, I am going to build a fork type. I am constantly looking for a Zijourski double paddle model, but these don't come cheap. I don't like to pay over $5 for a breadmaker, my Breadman Ultimate cost me $5 last year and I use it heavily, mixed around 75lb of flour thru this one so far. I also use one for roasting coffee, I roast 1 lb at a time. use to use a hot air popper, thet took for ever to do a lb of coffee, I can roast 1 lb in 12 minutes with the breadmaker set up.