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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #175 on: October 25, 2012, 06:21:22 AM »
I think if you ordered a blue steel pan from redhillgeneralstore in the last 3-4 months, it's no longer blue steel but just cold rolled steel. The mfr changed to a plant in Mexico I think.


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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #176 on: October 25, 2012, 09:39:02 AM »
I think if you ordered a blue steel pan from redhillgeneralstore in the last 3-4 months, it's no longer blue steel but just cold rolled steel. The mfr changed to a plant in Mexico I think.

 >:( Damn! They need to change their website!! Would theire be a qualitative difference with functionality once it is heavily seasoned? Thanks for the info.
 

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #177 on: October 25, 2012, 10:23:52 AM »
Others here have said that the blueing process just acts to prevent rust, so if you get them seasoned and all nice & black there's not much difference (if any at all.)

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #178 on: October 25, 2012, 03:21:32 PM »
The bluing process is only to prevent oxidation (rust). About the only difference you may have between a blue steel pan and cold rolled steel is the gauge of the steel itself. My blue steel pans are a very light gauge so they heat up & transfer the oven heat to the contents very quickly. I also have some steel roasting pans that are a much heavier gauge. They are terrible for pizza because the top burns before the crust really bakes. They bake much slower so you get no crust with them, just bread. Gauge of the pan is critical....

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #179 on: October 25, 2012, 03:23:02 PM »
s_b,

I have successfully used your recipe; continued thanks. But, in my quest for learning (sometimes with my own experimentation, sometimes with others'), I was wondering what differences you encountered with the finished product between when you use to refrigerate your dough overnight, and now, just letting it sit several hours? Any change in the crumb?

None. I think that the overnight ferment does promote a slightly richer flavor in the crust though, but very little.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #180 on: October 26, 2012, 12:58:17 AM »
s_b, thank you for that info. I already finished seasoning the pan, so I'll run a few dough balls thru it and see what happens. Maybe if I do a pre-bake before topping... we'll see.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #181 on: October 31, 2012, 12:48:00 AM »
I made my first 12x17 tray using the pan from Red Hill General Store. The pan performed perfectly and the pizza turned out great. The picture of the pan below is after 7 hours of seasoning and before seeing its first dough. It has a nice, thick layer that has started turning black after the first use. Time to order more pans and have some fun!

 

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #182 on: December 02, 2012, 11:56:06 AM »
Question..... I've been putting my pan to use with s_b's recipe; using 2oz of oil. The last pizza I did came out a little on the greasy side. Could this be due to the pan becoming very well seasoned and requiring less oil, or could it be because the dough did most of its rising outside of the oiled pan, as I had several doughs proofing at the same time?

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #183 on: December 02, 2012, 12:27:47 PM »
I don't know, but it looks pretty tasty.
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #184 on: December 23, 2012, 03:04:45 AM »
Thank you Mr. steel_baker for the video and everyone else who worked on perfecting this fantastic pizza recipe. I followed it to the best of my ability minus the cheese, but with addition of some Italian herbs. I can only get shredded mozzarella here in Taiwan. Still, the pizza came out incredibly tasty. My Taiwanese friends were fully impressed. I shared the video with them. Thank you!!!  ;D

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #185 on: December 23, 2012, 05:39:05 PM »
Thanks for the props everyone. And Pizzabinge, your VP Style pizza looks great in the pics. Looks pretty much spot on. ;D

Regarding your question on oil, the answer is yes. Once a pan is fully seasoned, you can cut back on the oil. Last tray I made a few weekends ago I started using only 1oz and it still came out great.

Keep baking!!!!

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #186 on: January 28, 2013, 12:27:31 AM »
This is too good of a thread to let idle for too long, so allow me two things...

(1) I've tried doing white pizza; adding some herbs, garlic, etc., but no matter what I do it comes out tasting like breadsticks (really good breadsticks). Anyone have any ideas to direct the taste away from breadstick-y to white pizza, or is it just the nature of the beast with this style of pizza?

(2) Pizza L'Oven (similiar to Victiry Pig & Pizza Perfect, and in the same region) posted this picture on their Facebook page today. They call it pagach pizza: 2 cheeses, mashed potatos, garlic & chives. A little on the heart attack side of things, but sounds good to me.

Edit: I recently started a pizza review blog (www.KeystonePizzaCritic.com). If anyone would like to do some guest reviews of pizza shops in PA let me know  ;D
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #187 on: January 28, 2013, 07:57:56 AM »
Pizzabinge, add broccoli to your white pizza. That's how VP serves theirs. Broccoli, chopped tomatoes, or mushrooms all work very well on a nice garlicky, herby white pizza. When I do mine, I thaw a box of frozen chopped broccoli, warm it through in a pan of EVOO & minced or chopped garlic, then spread it on the dough after salting and before topping with cheese. It is absolutely wonderful.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #188 on: January 29, 2013, 12:07:27 AM »
Pizzabinge, add broccoli to your white pizza. That's how VP serves theirs. Broccoli, chopped tomatoes, or mushrooms all work very well on a nice garlicky, herby white pizza. When I do mine, I thaw a box of frozen chopped broccoli, warm it through in a pan of EVOO & minced or chopped garlic, then spread it on the dough after salting and before topping with cheese. It is absolutely wonderful.

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s_b, that sounds good and looks even better, thanks. I'll let you know how it goes when I get around to doing another tray of white.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #189 on: February 08, 2013, 07:05:56 PM »
Cold rainy day with snow showers in the afternoon. Gray, cloudy typical Pittsburgh winter day. So I made a tray of VP Style pizza. I substituted high temp Safflower Oil (smoke point 450F) for peanut oil. It turned out great with no discernible difference in flavor.
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #190 on: February 08, 2013, 10:49:02 PM »
Looks great!

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #191 on: February 08, 2013, 11:16:08 PM »
This is too good of a thread to let idle for too long, so allow me two things...

(1) I've tried doing white pizza; adding some herbs, garlic, etc., but no matter what I do it comes out tasting like breadsticks (really good breadsticks). Anyone have any ideas to direct the taste away from breadstick-y to white pizza, or is it just the nature of the beast with this style of pizza?

(2) Pizza L'Oven (similiar to Victiry Pig & Pizza Perfect, and in the same region) posted this picture on their Facebook page today. They call it pagach pizza: 2 cheeses, mashed potatos, garlic & chives. A little on the heart attack side of things, but sounds good to me.

Edit: I recently started a pizza review blog (www.KeystonePizzaCritic.com). If anyone would like to do some guest reviews of pizza shops in PA let me know  ;D
I think I made it like about a few days after Thanksgiving...
I once had a Stoufers doctored up "pizza" bread that looked a lot like that.
Made it like about a week after Thanksgiving...
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #192 on: February 09, 2013, 10:24:58 AM »
Well steel_baker I finally got around to trying this since on your video you never said "Don't try this at home". I have a beat up steel pan that is partially seasoned. It is the odd job pan. I thought I'd give it a try. Thanks to Peter's work in reply 63 it was no problem to adjusting your recipe for my 8 x 12 pan. Using what was in the house meant olive oil for the pan. Also my cheese mix was mozzarella/provolone.
Overall I was very pleased with the results. I will get some peanut oil and next time I'll have cheddar cheese on hand. Happily the pizza did not stick to this pan. I was worried about that. I think I could cut down on the oil. I want to try a white pizza as well with your dough. Thanks for your efforts.
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2013, 10:35:58 AM »
Cool, I love seeing people change and adapt the recipe for their own needs. I do it as well. I've used this dough to make focaccia several times now. I just pump up the water to a 75% hydration and go through the dough mixing and rising in the pan. I also add flavorings to the dough mix like onion powder & garlic powder. I then poke in the dimples, top with coarse salt, fresh herbs, drizzle some olive oil on top and bake.

The focaccia turns out beautifully every time.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #194 on: February 10, 2013, 02:58:35 PM »
Steel Baker, thanks for all the work you've put into your epic attempt to clone this pizza. It looks delicious!
I read somewhere in this thread that these blue steel pans are hard to find now. Would these pre-seasoned pans
from Detroit Style Pizza Co. do the job? The 8x10-inch pan would suit me just fine.
http://detroitstylepizza.co/detroit-style-pizza-pans/
I hope it'll work since I impulsively just ordered one.
I will be trying your recipe as soon as the pan arrives.

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« Reply #195 on: February 10, 2013, 03:11:52 PM »
Steel Baker, thanks for all the work you've put into your epic attempt to clone this pizza. It looks delicious!
I read somewhere in this thread that these blue steel pans are hard to find now. Would these pre-seasoned pans
from Detroit Style Pizza Co. do the job? The 8x10-inch pan would suit me just fine.
http://detroitstylepizza.co/detroit-style-pizza-pans/
I hope it'll work since I impulsively just ordered one.
I will be trying your recipe as soon as the pan arrives.

Yes, they will absolutely do the job.

Enjoy!

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #196 on: February 10, 2013, 03:17:59 PM »
I had my first Sicilian-style pizza last night from a local pizza chain that just started offering Sicilian pizza. A 9x9-inch was just enough for the two of us. Almost couldn't eat the side order of Buffalo wings that I ordered in case the pizza wasn't enough to eat. I really love the taste and texture of the dough. Thanks again.

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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #197 on: February 18, 2013, 07:05:06 PM »
Ok, here's my first try at Victory Pig style pizza. Thanks to steel_baker for all his work and dedication and to Pete-zza for making it unnecessary for me to do the calculations to bake it in my 8x10 inch pan. I think the seasoning may have been put on too thick on the pan, some of it is flaking off. But anyhoo, here are three pix.

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« Reply #198 on: February 18, 2013, 07:06:10 PM »
Looks great!
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Re: Victory Pig Style Pizza - Northeastern PA
« Reply #199 on: February 18, 2013, 07:07:49 PM »
I'll also have you know that I used the special "only for guests" paper plates, too.  :)