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Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« on: March 01, 2011, 01:15:44 AM »
Traveling south through Dallas today, I jumped at the opportunity to go see a SF oven.  Not just any SF oven, but the red one that caught my eye when forum member JJerier2450 (Jay) posted about its arrival from Italy here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,12361.msg117293.html#msg117293  I should have paid more attention to the website for Il Cane Rosso (http://www.ilcanerosso.com/) that would have indicated that they are closed today. :'(

I walked up to the door and saw someone moving inside.  I went in, uninvited, and started visiting with the guy.  Not 30 seconds later Jay walked in, made the circle around the bar and took a kitchen towel off of a huge pile of dough, and started scaling it (265g) and putting it in balls into the dough trays.  He has this particular way of shaping the dough balls (I got video for later).

We visited about his homemade mozz and burrata.  Sopressata (sp) and anything else I could think of.  He let me plug in the charger for the camera battery for the obligitaory (for me) picture with the man.  Jay is about as down to earth as your going to find.  There are no secrets here.  Caputo Blue, cake yeast, water.  Mecnosud (sp) mixer, rest in bulk, ball, 48 hour cooler ferment.

I have never seen a wfo, until today.
Me: do you wax the oven?
J: No
Me: do you wipe the dust off of it?
J:  sometimes.
Me: Can I look at it?  Can I touch it?
J:  Sure, LOL!
It was still "warm" although it had not been used since Saturday.  The el cheapo gauge on the door registered 450.  He said, It ain't 450.  He pulled the door off, stuck his arm in and said, "less than 400, for sure"

The painter (Frank Compania) was outside touching up the mural he was working on.

I can't wait to hit this place when it is open.  I am most curious to see how the 265g dough ball opens up to fit the 14" plates (in comparison to the Varasano 300g balls at a smaller diameter (I cant remember))

Thanks Jay for your hospitality,  I really appreciate it.

--Jet

>> The batteries in the digital scale went south, and he had to switch to the old tried and true.<<
« Last Edit: March 01, 2011, 01:17:24 AM by Jet_deck »
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 01:29:06 AM »
Very Cool Gene.  8)  I love showing up when the pizzeria is closed and you get to meet the owner.  :-D

The mural is pimpin'.  8)

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 05:43:48 AM »
Nice write up indeed Gene.  Jay is as solid as they come.

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 06:35:53 AM »
Gene,

That is a great writeup and story.  :) The mural is really beautiful too!

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 07:55:07 AM »
Thanks for posting Gene. It's always cool to get a peek behind the scenes.

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 08:05:53 AM »
Great POST !! i always follow what he is doing on FB, there is always pictures and info.
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 10:23:41 AM »
Thanks guys and gal.  Here is Jay getting the ball ready for a nap.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1131/6qq.mp4

>>The artist name is Frank Campagna<<  Old school Italian guy.  http://www.franksart.net/



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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 06:40:30 PM »
il cane rosso just posted this on FB... very cool !!

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2011, 01:25:25 AM »
Thanks for video link. I liked it a lot. Who were the LA guys who taught him how to make pizza? No freakin ranch dressing lol.


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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 09:35:25 AM »
Thanks for video link. I liked it a lot. Who were the LA guys who taught him how to make pizza? No freakin ranch dressing lol.

He went to the VPN school in Marina del Rey, CA.

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 11:24:37 AM »
I want a t-shirt!
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2011, 01:52:04 PM »
He went to the VPN school in Marina del Rey, CA.

Oh thanks, the school that uses antica pizzeria. Not my favorite pizza sadly. Super cool restaurant though.

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2011, 02:17:23 AM »
Looks like Jay put up some new vids... http://www.youtube.com/user/canerossotx

I still can't wait to get some.
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 10:05:16 AM »
That margherita looks great.

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2011, 04:37:16 PM »
VERY NICE!
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 05:30:18 PM »
There's one guy scaling and 2 guys making dough balls.

The two guys look like they're manhandling that dough.
I spend a fraction of that amount of time and effort balling dough.

I still want a t-shirt!
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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 08:32:36 PM »
The videos are required for VPN application, if we decide to do it.  @mmmph we roll 300-400 doughballs per day, so if you want to come and help, our door is open.


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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 11:38:07 PM »
The videos are required for VPN application, if we decide to do it.  @mmmph we roll 300-400 doughballs per day, so if you want to come and help, our door is open.

Oops, forgot to mention the pie in the vid looks great.   

I could dig working there, I work fast, but I'm in NC. Long drive home. ;-)

I still want a t-shirt! Amazing. Please sell'em on your website.

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2011, 06:37:11 AM »
300-400 a day! :o you guys must be busy!  :chef: good on ya!

Mmmph, are you in North Carolina? If so are you anywhere near Tar Hills? I was offered a golf scholarship there, lovely place!

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2011, 10:16:20 AM »
Damn Jay!  You have come a long way.  The videos are very nice and the pizza looks perfect.  Since you have intimate knowledge, can you describe the differences between the TFW oven and that sweetheart SF oven? 

Thanks!

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2011, 08:02:08 AM »
Looks like I'm a little late to this party.   I went to Cane Rosso earlier this month and it was all I was expecting.  We got a seat by the oven and pizza prep areas.  For three of us we got a salad 2 pizzas and a dessert pizza.   All were great.   

I've been to eat Cane Rosso pizza before and always been impressed with the freshness and simplicity his ingredients. 

My company has a project coming up this summer in Dallas.  @Jay I'd be happy to roll dough for you rather then sit in the evening in my hotel room!  I need the practice!


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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2011, 03:00:44 PM »
Attached below is the review that will be printed in this Friday's DMN...online behind the paywall today.  I'm thrilled we survived our first review and would like to thank all of the pizzaioli, servers, kitchen staff, bartenders, bussers, managers and hostesses that helped us pull this off.  Most of all thanks to everyone who followed us around with our mobile oven and gave us the confidence to open up a brick-and-mortar space!
 
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By Leslie Brenner - Food Critic

After a slice, then two, then three of a regina margherita pie at Cane Rosso, I’m hit by an epiphany. I’ve found my religion: I’m a pizzaist.
I’m serious, and here’s why. The Naples-style pizza that emerges from the wood-burning oven at Jay Jerrier’s 2-month-old Deep Ellum pizzeria is more than outstanding; it’s knock-it-out-of-the-ballpark excellent. When I think about what’s involved in its creation — flour, water, salt, yeast, milk and tomatoes plus chemistry, the human touch, heat and love — and that something so incredibly compelling comes from things so elemental, I’m overwhelmed by an oceanic feeling.
Jerrier’s regina margherita is not only the best pizza I’ve had in Dallas, it’s also one of the best I’ve had in the country. The crust, charred and blistered, is at once chewy, crisp and tender. Pick up a slice and it sags just a little toward its point; the crispness tiptoes to a decrescendo. The flavor of the crust is deep and nutty. The toppings — tomato, buffalo mozzarella and basil — that melt with deep flavor into the crust are in perfect balance.
This slice speaks to my soul more loudly than a dish with 20 fabulous ingredients executed brilliantly by a pedigreed chef.
What elevates it to something transcendent is the human element. The kneading of the dough. The thought that goes into the pizzaiolo’s decision to give that dough a long, slow rise. His love of the craft, the passion that drives him to excellence. The eons of human history that culminate in the most basic and effective of ovens, as in the red-tiled, wood-burning beauty that’s not only the focal point, but also the heart of Cane Rosso (pronounced Cah-nay Roh-soh).
The cavernous space, with its high ceilings, exposed air ducts, and hard wooden benches that serve as banquettes, isn’t much of a dining room, but it has a nice feel. Whimsical pillows, some of them looking like giant green olives with pimentos, soften the benches. A high granite counter snakes around the oven; stools offer cat-bird perches to watch the pizzaiolos slide the pies into the flames and pull them out. Above the fiery mouth are the letters CANE ROSSO (“red dog” in Italian) spelled out in white tiles.
The menu’s simple: a few basic starters, sandwiches, a pasta of the day and those glorious pizzas.
Starters include a fine but undistinguished Caesar; a “mista” with good field greens, grape tomatoes, a too-sweet dressing and shaved Parmigiano; a salumi platter; and a few more. A brief list of mostly Italian wines offers a handful of whites and a modest selection of friendly reds, all between $25 and $40. There’s a small list of craft beers, some of them on tap.
I wish there were a more compelling salad, something as simple and Italian as the pizza, like arugula with shaved Parmigiano. I can’t help but wonder who orders focaccia or fried dough before pizza; something light fits the bill better. That said, I love the creamy Burrata with a little mound of nicely cooked rapini buried under it. A few leaves of baby arugula are scattered on top, and it’s dressed with just a little good olive oil and sea salt. A couple of griddled crostini lean against it, a perfect vehicle for a smear of Burrata and greens.
Pappardelle, one day’s pasta special, was drowned in way too much of a very good pork ragu. But a sandwich du jour was fabulous — slices of sausage from Jimmy’s Food Store, roasted peppers, caramelized onions, red sauce and mozzarella, all melted inside well-charred pizza bread.
Jerrier is one of several Dallas pizzaioli certified by the Associazione Verace Pizza Napoletana, the organization that trains cooks to make authentic Naples-style pizza. The dough must include only imported double-zero flour, water, yeast and sea salt; tomatoes must be plum tomatoes from Italy. But he approaches his craft with a level of seriousness that goes beyond the requirements of ingredients and oven type. That long, slow rise he gives the dough, for instance, results in superior texture and flavor. And not only does he make his own mozzarella (known in pizza circles as fior di latte), but it’s fabulous. Though mozzarella is a simple cheese, it’s not easy to master. Jerrier’s has perfect texture, much softer in the middle than on the edges, and a lovely milky freshness.
Though Cane Rosso’s warm, friendly servers are eager to please, they’re not necessarily well-informed about the menu and ingredients. (No, pappardelle is not a “tiny bit wider” than linguini.)
When my friends and I couldn’t decide between the regular margherita pizza and the regina margherita, our server raved about the regina, going on and on about how the buffalo mozzarella made it a better pizza. I wish we hadn’t listened — while we did love the regina, after tasting Jerrier’s outstanding fior di latte, I would have preferred to order the classic. Next time.
When I asked about a wine, a 2007 Lamborghini Trescone from Umbria for $40 (I figured it was the closest I’d ever get to a Lambo), the server described it as “much drier” than the other Italian reds. Yes, it’s just a pizzeria, but when such incredible attention is paid to the pies, it would be nice if the staff had at least a basic understanding of the small, uncomplicated wine list.
Back to the pizzas. The “Motorino,” topped with Burrata spread thin, crumbles of Jimmy’s sausage, rapini and basil and spiced up pretty good with Calabrian chiles, did not disappoint. Like all the pies I tasted, it got the balance of ingredients just right, without getting too loaded down. It reminded me of the “Gus” I had tasted on a previous visit (mushrooms instead of chiles, mozzarella instead of Burrata). In fact, though there are 21 pizzas from which to choose, many of them are too similar. “Cassie” is like “Gus” but with hot soppressata instead of sausage; “Funghi” is “Gus” minus the sausage. One that does feel different is the “Prosciutto e rucola,” topped with arugula leaves and luxurious, thicker-than-usual slices of prosciutto from Salumeria Biellese in New Jersey, made from Berkshire pork. Wonderful.
The 14-inch pies are big enough to share, but everything sounds and looks and smells so great it’s hard not to over-order. Still, even if you’ve eaten too much pizza and a doughy dessert sounds insane, force yourself. The “Bella Mela” dessert pizza, topped with thick-cut caramelized apples that might have escaped from a tarte Tatin, plus a smidge of vanilla mascarpone, a good dose of caramel sauce and a touch of sea salt, rocks. I even loved the s’mores calzone, pizza dough folded over chocolate chips and marshmallow, charred in the oven and sprinkled with powdered sugar. It arrives sliced, all gooey and melty, big enough for three or four. Zeppole, balls of hot, crisp, not too sweet fried dough dusted with powdered sugar, come in a paper bag, with a pot of chocolate sauce for dipping. What a treat.
That Jerrier, who started Cane Rosso 21/2 years ago when he brought a just-purchased mobile pizza oven to his daughter’s school carnival, has put down roots in Deep Ellum is very good news. He still has the mobile oven, which blazes on Tuesdays at Green Spot Market in Dallas, Wednesdays at Times Ten Cellars in Dallas and Thursdays at Times Ten Cellars in Fort Worth. (He also uses it to cater private and corporate events.)
It will be interesting to see whether eventually Jerrier will pull the threads together to make his restaurant as completely compelling as his pizza. I’d start by offering more interesting antipasti, training the waitstaff and making the forlorn patio more appealing.
But with that massive, glowing red oven at its heart, the quirky new place on Commerce Street seems heaven sent. It is a true temple of pizza, a place where I, for one, will worship as often as I can — and fervently.
Cane Rosso (3 stars)
Price: $$ (starters $5 to $15, sandwiches, pasta and pizzas $10 to $15, desserts for sharing $10)
Service: Attentive and super-earnest, if not always well-informed about the ingredients and wine list
Ambience: The bright-red-tiled wood-burning pizza oven is the heart of the cavernous, rough-around-the-edges dining room; there’s a spacious, if not exactly alluring, patio on the side.
Location: 2612 Commerce St. (in Deep Ellum), Dallas; 214-741-1188; www.ilcanerosso.com
Hours: Lunch Tuesday-Saturday 11 a.m. to 3 p.m., dinner Thursday-Saturday 5 to 11 p.m., or as late as there are still customers
Credit cards: All major
Wheelchair accessible: Yes
Smoking area: On the patio
Alcohol: Beer and wine only. The mostly Italian wine list offers a handful of whites, and a modest selection of friendly reds, all between $25 and $40.

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Re: Il Cane Rosso- Dallas, Tx
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2011, 03:20:23 PM »
Very cool and well deserved.  Congratulations Cane Rosso and wishing you continued success.

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2011, 03:27:29 PM »
Conrats, I'm glad your hard work is respected and appreciated by the reviewer.  Can't wait to meet again, hopefully soon. :chef:
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2011, 04:56:56 PM »
New video posted by Jay.  "Cane Rosso Margherita"



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