I appreciate all the info you are giving me,,, I thought I was looking in the wrong places,,, so it is a touch call, I guess I just need to move up my price range,,,, any other recommendations what I should do just to start out,,, should I lower my expectations on what I am looking for and start at a one with a lower temp... my oven at home does not get that hot,,, should I just invest in a stone and try it that way ,,