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Offline Zing

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 07:37:13 PM »
There may been quite a few threads about the Angela Mia line of food service products. I have found it easy to procure at foodservice Cash & Carry outlets. They sell for about $7.00 a can.


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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2011, 06:04:56 PM »
Have you tried the "Ken's pizza" from Mazzios? I spent many years by 15th and Sheridan (Ken's)....my dad always said it was a bitter divorce...he got Mazzios, she got Ken's....guess he has reacquired the right to Ken's again and they are selling it at Mazzios.

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2012, 11:22:38 AM »
On a recent trip back to the Tulsa area, I stopped into a Mazzio's to see if the Ken's sauce was still around.  Sure enough they had a "Ken's Pizza" on the menu.  Special thin crust with the special sauce.  I ordered one, sausage and mushroom, and waited....  I had already prepared myself that there was virtually no way that it would be as I remembered....

But it was.  And more.  After about 3 slices I started dragging the toppings off, and licked the sauce off of the remaining crust.  The sauce is the bomb.  Lots of smaller than pepper flakey stuff in it, tiny dehydrated onion bits, and little pieces of tomatoe peels about a third the size of your pinkey fingernail.  After nearly 40 years, I was in pizza heaven.  What a great find.

I know, no pictures, it didn't happen;  but it did and I loved it. :chef:
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2012, 01:44:29 PM »
That sauce sounds like one we made when trying to clone Shakey's sauce. We used a 28 ounce can of Escalon-produced Classico Crushed Tomatoes (available at Super WalMart) which includes the tomato peel. We either used red pepper flakes or ground cayenne. The tiny flakes sound like special cut, ground, or flaked oregano, basil, parsely and other herbs processed by folks like Mincing:
http://www.mincing.com/services.htm
Minced onion was supermarket house brand made by McCormick, chosen because of their small size. We did not cook the sauce, but made a tea of the seasonings, then added it to the crushed tomatoes and left it in the refrigerator overnight. We did add dextrose for Shakey's sweetness.

A post above gives some additional seasonings. Unless they put some industrial flavoring in there (the infamous "natural flavor" on the labels not available at retail), you should be able to recreate that sauce. I posted our current sauce recipe (can't taste cayenne in current Shakey's sauce samples, it leaches in from pepperoni) in the Shakey's sauce thread:
http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,518.msg168307.html#msg168307
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2012, 08:18:41 PM »
Thanks Zing.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2012, 02:01:56 PM »
Ahhh... Ken's was the pizza I grew up on. Lucky for me I have the last remaining Mazzio's in Georgia not too far away and was my preferred pizza place until I found this forum and started making my own.  :chef: After reading Jets post Tuesday I couldn't get Ken's outta my head so... I went there today and picked up a Ken's Supreme (was always my favorite) and a Mazzio's Thin Crust Works just to have something to compare the crust.

I remembered the crust to be crispy, instead it was soft. You can see how soft from the picture below. The sauce was like I remember! I a little tangy (not sure if that's the right word), kinda spicy but not spicy in a heat sense. I pulled back the toppings and noticed that there wasn't much sauce, just a thin layer, but did see the flecks of spices throughout (see pic).

I don't think it is a hot sauce or a cayenne that I taste... could be just plain pepper. I think it is a combination of pepper, onion, red/green bell peppers, oregano, garlic, and perhaps some thyme and/or marjoram.

Regardless of what's in the sauce I ate too much for lunch and am quite miserable... in that good "ate too much pizza" sorta way.

Edit: Oh yeah... forgot to say that it wasn't that different from the regular crust on the "works" pizza. A little more of a crunch on the bottom but otherwise not that different.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2012, 04:14:37 PM »
We used to go Ken's Pizza in Shawnee, OK after baseball games when i was a kid. I do remember it being very good.

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2012, 12:12:10 AM »
Neither my dad, nor my mom remember Ken's as being anything special.  Just me.  It is freeklishly good.  The sauce makes it...
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2012, 01:14:36 AM »
Neither my dad, nor my mom remember Ken's as being anything special.  Just me.  It is freeklishly good.  The sauce makes it...

The next time the owner of Mazzio's comes through where I work, I'll see about getting you a quart.  8)
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2012, 07:39:02 AM »
The next time the owner of Mazzio's comes through where I work, I'll see about getting you a quart.  8)

If that doesn't work then at least ask these questions:

1)  Do they use the same tomato base for both the Mazzio and Ken's sauce.
2)  Is the base the Alto Cucino brand tomato
3)  Is the sauce anything more than the base and the spice packet.
4)  Ask him if he has any idea what is in the spice packet, that gives the sauce the "zing"

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2012, 03:33:23 PM »
If that doesn't work then at least ask these questions:

1)  Do they use the same tomato base for both the Mazzio and Ken's sauce.
2)  Is the base the Alto Cucino brand tomato
3)  Is the sauce anything more than the base and the spice packet.
4)  Ask him if he has any idea what is in the spice packet, that gives the sauce the "zing"

Thanks Amore.

Will do, but I must tell you, it's been a few years since he's been through.  It's an auto shop, and at some point we'll see him again.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2012, 10:02:55 PM »
Ya' gotta' love these nostalgia things.  I'd love to have a bite of 70's Pizza Hut thin...just for the hell of it. I know it sorta' sucked but it's the same as Village Inn who was so into Birthday Parties and everyone remembers being there.  They were always called "Pizza parlors" in the day and visiting any of them as a kid was "Wondemous" ! I'll never discount nostalgia on this site.  NEVER!

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2012, 11:05:59 PM »
Ya' gotta' love these nostalgia things.  I'd love to have a bite of 70's Pizza Hut thin...just for the hell of it. I know it sorta' sucked but it's the same as Village Inn who was so into Birthday Parties and everyone remembers being there.  They were always called "Pizza parlors" in the day and visiting any of them as a kid was "Wondemous" ! I'll never discount nostalgia on this site.  NEVER!

MB

So right you are.

From another forum I hang at now and then .... Regarding Shakey's Pizza ....

"Shakey's Pizza . . . yes, I'm old enough to remember that Tulsa icon! I loved going there, pressing my nose against the window, watching the cooks toss the dough in the air, waiting for your playing card (which was your order "number") to be called, listening to that lady playing the piano, sitting on the long bench seats at the picnic style tables with parents drinking pitchers of beer . . . Yes, those WERE the days!! Between those memories and that picture my mouth is watering right now!"

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2012, 09:46:58 PM »
Well Jet_Deck, I tried ordering (Internet) a Ken's Italian Sausage, Mushroom & Green Olive to be delivered tonight.  And 14 minutes before the estimated 50 minute delivery time was up, they called to say Green Olives were only available for Dine-In only.  Funny thing when we had both Ken's and Mazzio's here together only Ken's had Green Olives. I told them to stuff the order.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2012, 11:53:44 PM »
Good call. The people working there have no idea what the heck they are serving.  They are messing with stuff I loved. Shame on them.  Thanks Amore.
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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2012, 11:57:23 PM »
This has been 30 years of this non-sense with Green Olives with these people.  I'll get one hopefully Friday at lunch.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2012, 09:59:11 AM »
If Craig takes his own basil to NY, then I guess you could have your own olives at home?  Either way, figure out what is in THAT sauce.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2012, 11:00:41 AM »
And 14 minutes before the estimated 50 minute delivery time was up, they called to say Green Olives were only available for Dine-In only.

I don't get that. Why would they do that? First, why would they only sell green olives on dine-in pizzas? Second, why would they call you 36 minutes after you ordered to tell you what they could have told you when you ordered? Also, are they stupid?
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2012, 11:03:12 AM »
Oh, I just saw that you ordered on the internet. Still, that's stupid, and it doesn't explain why they took 36 minutes to call you about it.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2012, 01:14:23 AM »
This has been 30 years of this non-sense with Green Olives with these people.  I'll get one hopefully Friday at lunch.

I have never heard of such a thing. Is there some adverse reaction people can get with olives so they need to monitor their customers in case someone croaks?

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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2012, 10:51:06 PM »
Alright Jet_Deck, I ordered a Mazzio's Works last night for delivery and had it with the Ken's Sauce.  It's been years since I had a Ken's.  Now I remember the sauce, and next time, I'll order just a cheese so spices from meat and veggies don't interfere in taste of the sauce.

After looking on line, I did manage to find this little bit of info regrading sauce.  "And the sauce recipe includes fresh tomato tidbits and a blend of spices, giving it a bold flavor." From this link, http://www.mazzios.com/about_us/news/20110429-KensPizzaFlashback.pdf

From the PM you sent me about the sauce and "the Zing", my initial thought is lemon juice not vinegar, but I do taste it.  Spices I believe are basil, oregano and maybe ground anise seed, but never could get palette cleaned off good enough after eating the Italian Sausage.  We'll get there.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2012, 10:56:20 PM »
Thanks tons Amore, the zing is not heat, but something else.  I really appreciate your perception of what was in the sauce.  It is a great mystery to me.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2012, 11:00:59 PM »
I'm still trying to track this down, but I think that there is still a "Ken's" out in Sapaulpa.  Dumpster diving here we go  :-D
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2012, 11:13:25 PM »
There is one somewhere in Kansas, and another in Missouri that are still privately held.  I have talked to one of them but no information was recieved on my part.
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Re: Ken's Pizza
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2012, 02:04:42 PM »
The Mazzio's in Tulsa still serve Ken's. I'm not so sure the crust is the same as in the old days. It's not real crispy, and It seems more like frozen than fresh made. It was good tasting pizza however.


 

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