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Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« on: April 13, 2011, 12:24:32 AM »
We're moving to a new place that we built from the ground up. Had them put a natural gas line out to the back porch so I could eventually have unlimited supply of gas for the LBE, until I'm able to finally build my dream brick oven.

Problem is, the only inexpensive natural gas burners I've found are wok burners. A local Asian supermarket sells them there (I've seen them before), so picking one up isn't a big deal, but wondering if anyone else has some tips on scoring any other kind of burners that use natural gas.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 12:53:20 AM »
Ronzo, Tejas has alot of options available for natural gas.  I believe most of their burners are made in both natural gas and propane versions.  I have called them only once, but they were completely able to take care of my special request, without an attitude or much additional expense.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 01:50:56 AM »
Ronzo, Tejas has alot of options available for natural gas.  I believe most of their burners are made in both natural gas and propane versions.  I have called them only once, but they were completely able to take care of my special request, without an attitude or much additional expense.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 07:37:22 AM »
Ron, I'm confused, I understood that only propane would burn correctly in high BTU burners as the tank can deliver the amount of gas needed. Natural gas is low pressure. I don't believe that just changing the jet size will make a difference.
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 07:57:52 AM »
Have you checked "bayou classic"?
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 08:08:41 AM »
Have you checked "bayou classic"?
Yes (my current burner is a Bayou Classic). They don't make any burners that run on natural gas.
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 08:13:40 AM »
Ron, I'm confused, I understood that only propane would burn correctly in high BTU burners as the tank can deliver the amount of gas needed. Natural gas is low pressure. I don't believe that just changing the jet size will make a difference.
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You're right about the difference in pressure (to an extent), but the info about low pressure not producing enough heat is incorrect since my current propane burner is actually a low pressure burner and I get plenty of heat.
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 08:13:51 AM »
Ron, I found this on their site after doing some more research and yes, it must be a different burner configeration for NG.
http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/618ng-10-jet-natural-gas-jet-burner.htm
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 08:14:41 AM »
Congrats on the new house Ron.  

Are there converter kits you can use to go from LP to NG that would allow you to keep your current burner?

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 08:28:27 AM »
Ron, I found this on their site after doing some more research and yes, it must be a different burner configeration for NG.
http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/618ng-10-jet-natural-gas-jet-burner.htm
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You're better than me, Don. I couldn't find squat on their site for natural gas. That is basically the exact set up I was looking at for the wok burners.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 08:29:47 AM »
Congrats on the new house Ron.  

Are there converter kits you can use to go from LP to NG that would allow you to keep your current burner?
Thank you, sir.

All the conversion kits I've found are more expensive than a new burner. Of course, as Don has proven, my research may be flawed! ;)
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 08:33:47 AM »
Ah, Now I understand. I was merely stating that changing the jet size to NG size, wouldn't make a high pressure burner fuction correctly using NG. I wasn't saying a low pressure burner wouldn't work in a LBE.
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You're right about the difference in pressure (to an extent), but the info about low pressure not producing enough heat is incorrect since my current propane burner is actually a low pressure burner and I get plenty of heat.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2011, 08:34:58 AM »
Ah, Now I understand. I was merely stating that changing the jet size to NG size, wouldn't make a high pressure burner fuction correctly using NG. I wasn't saying a low pressure burner wouldn't work in a LBE.
Don


Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding, kind sir. Haven't finished my coffee yet. :D
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2011, 11:37:17 AM »
Ron,

The link Don referenced at Reply 7  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,13559.msg135102.html#msg135102 is about what we used in our caramel popcorn kettles.  Our burners had 16 jets.  Some of our burners were natural gas and some were propane.  At least in our burners like those that Don referenced we could control how much heat we wanted, with a regulator knob.  Our burners were contained in a stainless steel jacket.  I still have one of those burners with a jacket, if you want to see a picture.

I donít know if that will help you or not.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 07:27:18 PM »
Ron,

The link Don referenced at Reply 7  http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,13559.msg135102.html#msg135102 is about what we used in our caramel popcorn kettles.  Our burners had 16 jets.  Some of our burners were natural gas and some were propane.  At least in our burners like those that Don referenced we could control how much heat we wanted, with a regulator knob.  Our burners were contained in a stainless steel jacket.  I still have one of those burners with a jacket, if you want to see a picture.

I donít know if that will help you or not.

Norma
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2011, 10:41:32 PM »
Would love to see it, Norma, if it's not too much of a hassle for you to provide the picture. Thank you.

Ron,

I will dig though my shed tomorrow and take a picture of what the jet burner looks like.  I forget how many jets the caramel corn kettle has that I kept.  Some of them had more jets than others.  I had thought at one time about trying to convert that stainless steel kettle with jets for the heat, into some kind of pizza oven, but didn't know how to go about doing that.  I do have pictures of the caramel corn kettles, I could scan into my computer, but don't think they show the burner jets.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 11:11:51 AM »
Ron,

These are the pictures of the 2 caramel corn kettles I saved, and the picture of the one with the burner jets in.  I thought the burner I saved had more jets, but it doesnít. The one kettle the jets must have be removed to replace on another, that didnít work. I might have one of those other jet burners stored in cabinets in my shed, but there are too many things right now to move, to get to the cabinets. On the one kettle it did have a regulator knob that could be adjusted, by turning a knob, but on the kettle with the jet burners, there is just a place to adjust the heat with a lever.  If you look at LionsDeal, you can see what the different kinds of jet burners they have for sale.  http://www.lionsdeal.com/te-226800p.html  and just for the jets for the burners http://www.lionsdeal.com/fmp-156-1006.html   LionsDeal has all kinds of jet burners if you are interested in looking at their website.

Sorry my tool and whatnot shed is so messy, I need to houseclean it since weather is getting better in our area.  :-D I did take the one kettle with the jet burner outside, so it could be seen better.

I donít know if this will help you are not, in your search for jet burners.  Our jet burners could be changed with different orifices to change from propane to natural gas or the other way around.

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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 08:22:08 PM »
Norma, thank you for all the hard work you put in to getting me the picture. Your shed isn't any more "messy" than my garage. No worries. ;)

Thanks for posting the link to LionsDeals. I think I'd rather buy what essentially looks like the exact same burner from CPAC. http://www.cpapc.com/store/23-Tip-Round-Nozzle-Jet-Burner-natural-gas-P469C244.aspx It's $25 there. 
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Re: Natural Gas burners for the LBE
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2011, 09:02:30 PM »
Ron,

Your price at CPAC is a lot cheaper.  :) I donít remember where we bought jet burners when we needed them. 

Best of luck with your LBE!

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