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Offline flyboy4ual

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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2011, 01:37:11 AM »
What about buying larger floor tiles?   Maybe replacing those little guys with the ones that Earthstone sells.  Those are supposed to be pretty good.  Just an idea.

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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2011, 08:13:01 AM »
Or even firebrick.  You should be able to source firebrick locally pretty inexpensively.  Firebrick tends to be very consistent in shape and size and would be easy to replace.

If not, I myself would pack the tiles as tight as possible and sand to smooth them out.

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« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2011, 10:18:43 PM »
We decided we (well, I) simply couldn't live with the oven floor as it was, so we contacted a mason that is a customer of Dan's and hired him to help us.  The floor bricks that came with the oven were just unacceptable, so I bought nice even high-quality ones and we started over.  Now we have a gorgeous flat level herringbone pattern custom-fitted floor!  And so we finally got the dome up.  I've included a photo of the mason getting started, and photos of the floor, the dome half up, and the interior now that the dome is up.  Supervising was our dog, who spent the entire time under the stand, and finally fell asleep while 5 guys lifted and mortared the dome.  :-D  Final shot is the one chipped floor brick, at the mouth of the opening of course, discovered AFTER the floor was mortared and the dome was complete.  Sigh.   :P

I'm pretty thrilled with the result.  The interior is beautiful, and I can't wait to be sitting at the dining table staring into it. 

We have all the venting pipe, but still need the fabricator to finish the custom gasket for the connection from the flue to the pipe (the flue is 5 1/2" and the pipe is 6") so hopefully we'll get that going very soon.  Once the flue is mortared on, we can insulate and start curing!!!  And, of course, fix the drywall and put in the window, etc, but who cares, we'll be cooking then!  Needless to say we've given up on the end of July deadline, but hoping for middle of August...? 


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« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2011, 10:23:24 PM »
Wow fantastic job!  Good move on switching out the floor stones.  The oven interior looks stunning.  

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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2011, 11:03:32 PM »
Great job on the new floor! The oven looks perfect!

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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2011, 11:34:45 PM »
Perfect! and as you say stunning inside a pleasure for the eyes for sure! Where did youfind such tiles and would you mind sharting the cost of such. Just surious comared to the earthstone or fire brick.
Great job! I can see the light (or not) at the end of the oven  ;D youll be baking soon!
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« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2011, 01:16:45 AM »
John - they are Whitaker Split fire brick (they also come in full thickness).  The split that we used was perfect thickness for our job, they were about 1/4" thinner than the ones it came with which was exactly what we needed.  And the color was what I wanted, it's hard to find fire brick in that red, so I'm very happy to have found them.  They are $2.30 each, and our business has an account with the yard where we bought them so we get 10% off.  We bought 35 and only used 31, and the mason gave us a deal since he is a longtime customer and only charged us $400 to do the floor, and then he and his employee stayed and helped Dan and his friends finish the dome.  So it was a great deal!! 

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« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2011, 10:27:13 PM »
Beautiful Robyn. You'll be so happy you did that. When you buy quality, you only cry once. You'll love it every time you look at it.

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« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2011, 01:04:01 AM »
Robyn,

Way to bite the bullet.  That oven interior looks absolutely beautiful.  The oven rally looks artisanal and of superior quality, especially with the custom floor.

I am learning so much from your thread.  Please continue to update us on your progress.

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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2011, 02:08:44 AM »
Freeee....eeeekin'....sweeeeet.....been tossing around getting one for sometime now!! Very, very nice!!! Know some guys that do alot of chicken thighs and quails and grouse and such in their WFO, that Persian fire roasted thing.

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Chimney is up, we're getting close now.
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2011, 10:07:12 PM »
This weekend we got the chimney installed.  We will be gone for a family event this coming weekend, but our goal is to have the insulation done by Monday night of next week, and begin curing with the goal of cooking by the weekend.  We've been using a heat lamp to start the curing a bit, and will do more of that before the actual first fire.  I am so ready to try this oven out!!   

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« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2011, 10:47:19 PM »
Wonderful job! Looks like Christmas came early this year!

Cant wait to see what you can make with this oven!
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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2011, 10:01:52 AM »
Exciting stuff Robyn. If you have a chance, I'd love to see some close-ups of the chimney adapter you had fabricated.

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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2011, 09:57:59 PM »
WOW how many feet of pipe is that total? what class?
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« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2011, 10:49:19 PM »
We have flames!  Woohoo!  We had a small vacation preplanned which interrupted progress a bit, but we are officially burning now.  Dan's been working on the wall patch, drywall is up and taped, mudded, and ready for sanding.  Today I finished wrapping it in insulation blanket, and we started our first fire.  We've been "curing" it all week with a heat lamp, which got it between 250-300F so I figured we were in good shape for the first fire.  It's drawing beautifully, minimal smoke in the room (YaY!) and it seems to "work"  :D  The outside looks like a giant stovetop Jiffy-Pop popcorn or a baked potato  :-D  but it's staying cool so far - we've been burning over an hour, inside is 400-600F, and outside is still cool to touch, as is arch in wall.  That was my big worry, but so far so good.  As soon as we know it's staying relatively cool outside, Dan will put up the enclosure walls and we'll fill them with perlite for more insulation.  Hoping to be cooking our first pies this weekend!  Now if I can just decide on a recipe or 3...

John:  the chimney pipe is ICC insulated:  http://www.icc-rsf.com/en/icc/insulated-stainless-steel-chimney  and there's 6 and a half feet above the roof, I think the total length is about 16'.  

Craig:  We ended up not needing an actual adapter because the bottom of the inner ss lining of the ICC elbow had a sealing bead rolled into it and Dan's fabricator friend was able to put it on an anvil, tap the bead flat, and buff the exterior of the cast iron transition piece, resulting in a perfect fit, for the cost of a bottle of bourbon.    

This is a serious low dome - finished height at tallest interior point is 10" on a 38" deck.  Learning to cook in there will be an interesting experience!   :-\
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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2011, 10:56:02 PM »
Beautiful! I'm excited for you. Can't wait to see your pies!

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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2011, 11:24:24 PM »
Very cool!  Looking forward to seeing some pies coming out of there.

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« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2011, 12:10:15 AM »
Looking GOOD! Excited for you all as well!
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« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2011, 08:52:57 AM »
So cool Robyn!! Congrats on the first Flames! Its Fun Flirting with Fire right  ;D ? You should have nothing to worry about especially after adding even more perlite insulation. I have only perlite on the earthstone and after burning for 6 Hours at 800-900 barely warm to the touch.
My next home will definitely have an oven in the kitchen I feel it would  be used even more for the other great things these ovens can do the residual heat next day ...  So much better better  than running outside with this and that.
For recipe I recommend  start basic and go from there to your liking.
low 60's hydration with 10- 20 % HG flour to help with manageability (tastes good too)
2.5% on the salt
.25% yeast .  24-36hr min fermentation
Oh, don't forget to exercise as other members can attest this contant testing /experimenting can test your waist line  as well  :-D
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Re: Oven is here - guess this means we're really doing this!
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2011, 09:23:53 AM »
looks amazing!  good luck with the first pizza.  i'm sure it will be the best you've ever had.
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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2011, 09:40:58 AM »
RobynB,

Those flames look so cool!   8)  Best of luck with you first bake!  :)

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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2011, 01:50:01 PM »
How cool is that!

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2nd burn and first pizza.
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2011, 01:07:17 AM »
You know those people like Chau and Scott D., the ones that pull picture-perfect gorgeous pies out of their oven on their first bake?  Yeah, I knew I wasn't going to be one of them, and guess what?  I was right  :-D  We're still officially curing it so we only went up to about 750-800F tonight but wanted to try just one pizza, so I threw together a quickie single-ball dough to try.  First time using my new GI peels, too.  Got the dressed dough onto the peel after several scary failures, using more bench flour than I wanted, and re-pulled it back into a lovely round circle.  Carried it over to the oven and took a deep breath and launched it, and OF COURSE it stuck to the peel and I panicked and did the "get it off, get it off" moves until I managed to unload it onto the oven floor in an elongated oval.  Then I made the noobie error of trying to pick up a piece of mozz that had fallen off onto the oven floor with my bare hand and put it back on the pizza - that hurt.  And of course I burned it; it's hard to see in there (I was cooking by coals, not flames, at that point).  Sigh.  Reality:  it was still better than most pizza I've eaten in restaurants over the years - Dan said if we were served this a few years ago, we'd probably have been totally stoked and called it "artisan" pizza and paid extra for it.  The biggest issue for me was getting it onto, and off of, the peel, which will just be practice, I guess.  I've watched that video from the Pizza Expo of the GI peel being slid effortlessly under the pizza a dozen times, but I haven't figured out that move yet, or it's reverse.

So here, for posterity, is my first WFO pizza.  Go ahead and laugh  ;D

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Re: 2nd burn and first pizza.
« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2011, 01:18:59 AM »
.... it was still better than most pizza I've eaten in restaurants over the years ....

It looks like a great start.  I couldn't laugh, as my mouth would be full of your pizza.  Congrats on your first wfo pizza and many more to come :chef:
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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2011, 01:24:05 AM »
Robyn,
I have to say WOW! Never mind the launching problems,you will get that fixed.Whats important,I can see how it COOKED! It looks so goood!
The color,the char,the rim spring,the way the cheese melted,I can only imagine how good it tasted!

Look forward to seeing your next few pies!!
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