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« Reply #1020 on: December 17, 2011, 05:31:16 AM »
Continued . . .
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« Reply #1021 on: December 17, 2011, 05:32:37 AM »
Continued . . .
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« Reply #1022 on: December 17, 2011, 09:23:29 AM »
Stunning. Very few people would ever suspect those didn't come from a WFO. I don't know what is more impressive, your pizza itself, your passion for pizza, or your thermodynamic ingenuity.

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« Reply #1023 on: December 17, 2011, 06:01:16 PM »
Stunning. Very few people would ever suspect those didn't come from a WFO. I don't know what is more impressive, your pizza itself, your passion for pizza, or your thermodynamic ingenuity.

CL

Dear Craig, I thank you opulently for your generous compliments! Heaven knows how much time, consideration, and effort I have put into my home gas oven to make it perform the way it does. Although it is no substitute for a wood-fired oven (particularly when it comes to the flavor profile), it can appreciably simulate it! Indeed, without a shred of doubt, the Neapolitan oven is not just a tool—it is an indispensable ingredient besides the water, flour, salt, and fermentative agent. Have a great weekend and I look forward to your magnificent pizzas.

Respectfully,
Omid
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« Reply #1024 on: December 17, 2011, 11:01:24 PM »
absolutely stunning!

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« Reply #1025 on: December 18, 2011, 03:33:57 PM »
absolutely stunning!

Dear Gtsum, thank you!
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« Reply #1026 on: December 18, 2011, 04:13:12 PM »
Omid,

Hi...Sorry to bring up old posts, but in your posts #648 and #649 in this thread in which you describe your unique cheese slicing method, the knife you featured in your demonstration is a Shun "classic" series knife, correct?  I am about to purchase my first set of Shun knives after much research, and it would be nice to know that I could try to duplicate your cheese slicing method as an added bonus to offset the significant cost of Shun knives  :)

Thanks...Adam  

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« Reply #1027 on: December 18, 2011, 07:56:14 PM »
Omid,

Hi...Sorry to bring up old posts, but in your posts #648 and #649 in this thread in which you describe your unique cheese slicing method, the knife you featured in your demonstration is a Shun "classic" series knife, correct?  I am about to purchase my first set of Shun knives after much research, and it would be nice to know that I could try to duplicate your cheese slicing method as an added bonus to offset the significant cost of Shun knives  :)

Thanks...Adam

Dear Adam, my knife is a Shun 6" Utility Knife (DM0701). Now that I think about it, perhaps, I would have been better off purchasing the Chef's 8" (DM0706) which has a bit more acute blade/edge curvature, which can probably add more leverage, ease, and precision in slicing various cheeses, vegetables, and etc. However, I am not sure if its blade is as thin as the DM0701. These knives are expensive, but they are once-in-a-lifetime purchase as long as they are properly cared for. (Some chefs recommend immediately washing the entire blade after slicing onions, garlics, shallots, lemons, and limes.)

I suggest that before purchasing your knife, ask the salesman to bring you at least three knives of a same kind, and you tactilely and visually examine their entire anatomy: tip, edge, blade, spine, and heel. Pick the one that is best fashioned, as these are hand-made and naturally some come out slightly better than others. (I believe these knives must be professionally sharpened when the need arises. The better cutting board you use, the longer the blade will maintain its sharpness. If you have never used this type of knives before, be very careful as they are quite sharp.) Good luck and good night!
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« Reply #1028 on: December 19, 2011, 12:08:52 AM »
I returned my Shun and bought a Mac (http://macknife.com/kitchen/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.pbv.v2.tpl&product_id=3&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9 ), to me they just felt like they cut better and retained a better edge, but that is personal. Regardless of what knife you buy, I recommend you purchase some Japanese sharpening stones and to try to learn how to sharpen your knives (Practice on a cheap German steel knife first and also learn about sharpening angels).   

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« Reply #1029 on: December 19, 2011, 01:08:10 AM »
Redshirt is correct about learning how to sharpen with wetstones.  It is essential to properly maintain your knives.  I would recommend paying http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/forum.php a visit and learning as much as you can about steel types, shapes, sharpening, and maintenance.  But be prepared... you are entering a new world!  Sort of how one would feel stumbling upon this forum for the first time.  

Also, beware... they're addictive!  I've amassed quite a collection of Japanese Kitchen Knives over the past few years, and currently have blades from Hattori, Mizuno, Murray Carter, Watanabe, Hiromoto, Ichimonji, JCK, and Fujiwara.  I also have several stones and perform all my own sharpening.  These knives will amaze you.

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« Reply #1030 on: December 20, 2011, 03:18:49 PM »
Below are some rare, new videos from Pizzeria Salvo, in addition to a couple of interesting articles and a picture of Alici Pizza Marinara (from Salvo also), which reminds me of the Sardine Pizza dear CraigTX recently made:


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIo2yNRg0WE" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIo2yNRg0WE</a>
(Salvatore Salvo at Pizzeria Salvo)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O57RJlb71DY" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O57RJlb71DY</a>
(At Pizzeria Salvo)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHVoed8_gqI" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHVoed8_gqI</a>
(At Pizzeria Salvo)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80hN3l8kZw" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80hN3l8kZw</a>
(Ciro Salvo at Gatta Mangiona in Rome)
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http://www.scattidigusto.it/2011/07/15/pizza-a-roma-qui-gatta-mangiona-ci-cova-con-ciro-salvo/ (Article)

http://www.scattidigusto.it/2011/11/30/pizza-tris-di-assi-con-champagne-alla-gatta-mangiona-a-roma/ (Article)
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« Reply #1031 on: December 21, 2011, 11:24:48 AM »
Hi Omid,

Thank you for the video and article links to Salvo.

I have visited many Neapolitan pizzerias in Naples, Italy (including Da Michelle, Sorbillo, etc) and also in the USA (including Keste, UPN, etc), and Salvo is definitely number 1 for me!

Young Salvo was also very friendly and helpful.

Kind regards.

Barry

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« Reply #1032 on: December 21, 2011, 11:34:51 AM »
Omid,

Thank you for the great videos!  I'm a definitely kicking myself for not making the trip to Salvo.  It will certainly be our #1 stop on next year's trip.

Salvatore

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« Reply #1033 on: December 22, 2011, 03:04:22 AM »
Last night's bake (using Santos, 61% hydration, 3% crisceto, 3+21 hours of fermentation in controlled room temperature, & home gas oven):
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« Reply #1034 on: December 22, 2011, 03:06:09 AM »
Continued . . .
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« Reply #1035 on: December 22, 2011, 03:07:15 AM »
Continued . . .
"Since I cannot move the gods above, I shall move the gods below!"
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« Reply #1036 on: December 22, 2011, 04:11:48 AM »
Super nice pizzas Omid!  Check her out she will kick my ass any day!  Look at the slap technique
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCiIudX0g9I&amp;feature=plcp&amp;context=C30ae474UDOEgsToPDskKhmDz8qYfAaKGrBOtqC2H_" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCiIudX0g9I&amp;feature=plcp&amp;context=C30ae474UDOEgsToPDskKhmDz8qYfAaKGrBOtqC2H_</a>

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« Reply #1037 on: December 22, 2011, 04:19:24 AM »
Super nice pizzas Omid!  Check her out she will kick my ass any day!  Look at the slap technique . . .

Dear Redshirt, thank you! I admire how ardent the Japanese are about Neapolitan Pizza. Thank you for the link. Have a great day!
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« Reply #1038 on: December 22, 2011, 05:28:55 AM »
I thought I juxtapose Da Michele's dough balls with Salvo's (thanks to Kiwipete for the pictures!) for the sake of contrast and comparison.

In reference to Reply #952 in this thread, I would like to add Sorbillo's dough balls to the telltale collection, below. Sorbillo's dough balls appear to be of lower hydration than Da Michele's and Salvo's. (Perhaps, that is why the dough tray had not been dusted before the dough balls were situated therein.) To the best of my knowledge, the former employs a fork mixer while the latter uses a double diving arms mixer. I do not know what type of mixer Sorbillo uses. Does anyone know? Good day!
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« Reply #1039 on: December 22, 2011, 12:06:43 PM »
Just beautiful Omid!  :)
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