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Offline flyboy4ual

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Re: My wood fired oven has arrived!
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2011, 02:50:53 PM »
Chau,

Thanks,  Now i got to figure out what to cover the oven in.  I think with all the angles, that mosaic tile would be easy.  Do you or anyone else have any ideas or recommendations?

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« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2011, 02:58:22 PM »
Actually, with all the angles, I think mosaic tile would be hard. There are a lot of edges there that will need to be cut to fit. The easiest thing would be stucco, IMO. You can color it pretty much any shade you like, and you could always set some decorative tiles in the stucco as well. FWIW, I've got stucco on the brain right now because I'm in the middle of applying it to my own oven. ;)

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« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2011, 03:15:48 PM »
Tile would be beautiful, so would brick veneer.  If you do tile I'd love to see glass tiles in copper or that gorgeous iridescent recycled glass tile - it's crazy spendy but can be spectacular.  This company has my absolute favorite glass tile - their trim and decos cannot be matched:  http://www.glasstile.com/

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« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2011, 03:32:32 PM »
And seal the chimney pipe. Are you sure This is your first time working with this board and metal studs? It's amazing what you have done! I also really like the look of the vent. I can you that stone face fake of real is a lot of work. Unless you use a stack stone look, when it's all said and done you still have to grout it all! That's the real work. I would think you want the vent to POP somehow? I can envision a stucco easier, or the look that is on the fornoclassic oven broken tile so you don't have to be so  pick with all the angles
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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2011, 07:13:33 PM »
And seal the chimney pipe.

What do you use to seal single wall pipe at those temps?

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« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2011, 07:29:58 PM »
What do you use to seal single wall pipe at those temps?

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« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2011, 08:02:20 PM »
Craig,

Good question.  I have some high temp silicone rated to 300 degrees.  Any ideas?

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« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2011, 08:14:54 PM »
If it was me, I would do the roof with metal roofing.  You should be able to flash that, unlike pretty much anything else you apply to it. If that is single wall pipe, there really is no flexible material that I know of to seal it that will take the heat.  Maybe some glass rope that has been doped with something.

Metal roof, stucco on all but the face and tile the face=my choice.

Brick or stone really will not work with the angles, and if you tile it all, the corner/edge joints will crack.  Not might, they WILL.

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« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2011, 08:55:39 PM »
Just curious,

How do you think this was done? is just surrounded by cement?  Maybe i should check with Forno Bravo.  I think this is their Tuscano oven that is a finished  Casa 2G.

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« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2011, 11:05:26 PM »
You could apply a bead of this http://www.rutland.com/productinfo.php?product_id=28 under the top of a storm collar. It's only rated to 600 but maybe that's enough. Just a thought.

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« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2011, 09:20:45 AM »
Suprised Forno still uses single walll at that price?? 2 ft section of double wall is only $120 bucks?
I used a stoem collar on the earthstone and the mobile has the stucco sealing the base plate here is what it looks like no issue with either Both double wall pipe
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« Reply #86 on: August 25, 2011, 04:10:29 PM »
I have most of the joints taped and mortared.  I am just waiting to get the front roof piece done when I figure out what I am going to do with the chimney coming through the cement board.

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« Reply #87 on: August 25, 2011, 04:56:13 PM »
Have you checked the temperature of the chimney with the oven running at full temp?

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« Reply #88 on: August 25, 2011, 06:33:54 PM »
Craig,

When I aim my laser thermometer at the tube part of it, it gives a false reading.  When I aim it on the inside of the chimney cap it reads about 450F. 

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« Reply #89 on: August 25, 2011, 10:25:03 PM »
450F continuous is really the outside edge of what you can do with most high-temp silicone. Even if you could find something with higher temp application, I don't think it solves your problem. I don't think you can get angled roof flashing for single wall pipe, and you don't want to seal single wall straight into your roof. In residential penetration applications, single wall is generally used for chimney liner and as such, it always comes out through a horizontal opening at the top of a chimney.

I think your best option might be to pull out the single wall pipe, put in an adapter and run a length of double wall through your roof. This way, you can use a proper flashing and storm collar and seal everything with silicone.

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« Reply #90 on: August 25, 2011, 10:31:35 PM »
Thanks for the information Craig.  Just curious how does Forno Bravo get away with doing this?

http://www.fornobravo.com/residential_pizza_oven/toscana-pizza-ovens.html

That is kinda how I want to do mine.  They also use a single wall pipe.  Do you think I could do something like this?

Thanks,

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« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2011, 11:14:10 AM »
The main difference being that the FB Toscana are not inside an enclosure like yours. They are masonry and stucco all over. Fill your enclosure with perlite or some other insulation, and you will have a much easier time keeping your temperature up than you would in one of the premade FB ovens.

Maybe you could tile the roof and somehow fashion a masonry seal around the chimney similar to what FB does? It could come down and have sort of a flange cast into it that would lie under the tile?

I think moving up to double wall chimney will be a lot easier, probably less expensive, and probably better mechanically.

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« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2011, 11:15:09 AM »
Is that 6" or 8" pipe coming out of your oven?
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« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2011, 05:42:30 PM »
Craig,

It is an 8 inch pipe.

I was thinking of doing a 1-2 inch ring of refractory cement around the pipe and leaving a 1/8 to 1/4 inch gap from the pipe to the ring.  And then I would fill that with high temp silicone rated to 600 degrees.  I live in Southern California, so we really don't get much rain.  I plan on covering the oven when rain is expected, so it should not really be exposed to water. 

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« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2011, 08:59:29 PM »
Worth a try. You can always change it down the road if that set-up gives you problems.

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« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2011, 10:09:59 PM »
Scott ,
I have to agree with Craig here If the adaptor plate will take the double wall pipe I also recommend you  just change to the double wall.  I still cant believe they send that pipe with that Price tag? A -  3ft stainless section will run around $165  bucks and your problems are solved Think you may need a new cap as well another $50 I stuggled with how to frame mine chimney in for months and no one could make a suggestion 5 years ago. The double wall was the answer I then used a wood roof and had it done in a weeks time
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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2011, 04:31:27 PM »
Having fun with the oven and cheese curd!

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« Reply #97 on: September 10, 2011, 01:37:11 AM »
I started to mess around with sketch program and a photo of my untiled oven.  I kind of like the look of the mosaic. 

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« Reply #98 on: September 10, 2011, 08:27:33 AM »
Lots of work but thats exactly what I envisioned !
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« Reply #99 on: October 03, 2011, 03:06:02 PM »
Two coats of Red Guard applied and drying.  This should create a water tight seal before applying the tile.

Scott D.