Author Topic: FLIRTING WITH FIRE ! (Read 47299 times)

Bob1 · « **Reply #260 on:** May 18, 2012, 04:28:14 PM »

Craig,
I found Meyers at Whole Foods but I think they are seasonal.

JConk007 · « **Reply #261 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:30:53 PM »

Beautiful weather again ? wow ! next week I am scheduled for Friday and they are calling for rain already ? Steve could this be So

I thought I would show you this weekend How the fridge looks ready for a party of 50. It ain't all slapping pies allthose fresh ingredients are shopped for,packed up sliced ,diced, cooked, stored and oh yeah just a little bit (yeah Right) of clean clean clean. I also did a topping menu for the association because I am tired of the what do you have ?? Great group condo association community party. and they raved about it !!

JConk007 · « **Reply #262 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:34:30 PM »

Fun People !! first hill party

tucked myself into the parking area just in front of the action workred out great

JConk007 · « **Reply #263 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:39:21 PM »

I know your sick of these but Heres just a few Pies. I like any feed back as to how people thnik it can be done better, as I I am striving to keep it real! or any comment as to toppings, set up... from outsiders are also helpful and appreciated I did add the table covers ! .Nice touch look professional Til next week
Ciao JOhn
few more sprout right craig? they did LOVE that pie as well and Hot honey conitues to be a buzz!

TXCraig1 · « **Reply #264 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:43:47 PM »

That is so cool. I get jazzed up for you every time I see the pics.

What do your customers think of the sprout pies?

JConk007 · « **Reply #265 on:** May 20, 2012, 09:55:57 PM »

Thanks Craig everybody really enjoyed the brussel sprout pies! I had them all waiving the white surrender napkin flag in about 1 1/2 hour! until the Nutella pies came out

then they cursed me out and said "how dare you bring this around after I am ready to explode" !! OK I gotta try that! and thats whats way cool about this gig people LOVE the freshness and variety of the whole experience !
John

norma427 · « **Reply #266 on:** May 20, 2012, 10:12:48 PM »

John,

Great looking pies!

I really enjoy reading about your events.

Norma

Kermit · « **Reply #267 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:00:15 AM »

Don't really know how I could have not read this thread already

First of all I think it's so cool that you're actually doing this, instead of just dreaming of doing it. I've been playing with the same thought for a couple of weeks now, and your thread is quite helpful of me looking deeper into this. I could see this as a stepping stone for myself to try pizzamaking off before actually going for the ultimate dream of opening my own place in Denmark.

Do you mind sharing how much the initial investment was to get it all started?

JConk007 · « **Reply #268 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:27:44 PM »

I have seen used Mobile Ovens here and on craigslist in the USA for as low as $7000 other custom builders offer high end larger models that Can run you upward of $25,000.00 This is the first step no oven no pizza. The you have to pull it ! $38,000 ford F350 4x4?, or $3,000.00 dodge ram 1500. Then it all a matter of the type of events you wish to do ? Private catering, Street fairs, Multi day festivals..... Do you need a mixer $1500-$5500 or going to mix by hand. Do you need a refridgerated prep table $700- $2500 or can you use coolers.. 3 comapartment sink $1500, or bucket with soap ?do you want to use cheapo wooden peels $11 each or Custom GI metal product at $81 ea.? In other words its hard for me to answer ? another guy just spent $180,000.00

on an enclosed. truck mounted Stefano Ferraro oven. I would open my own place before ever plopping down that kind of money but you get the idea I would say to be safe with all the goodies and a decent inventory of required products $25,000.00 ?? Have I talked you out of it yet ??
John

Bob1 · « **Reply #269 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:52:40 PM »

John,
One other to thing to mention. Depending on the truck size and trailer weight once you go over a 10,000lbs truck or truck trailer combined you need to be DOT certified. That means registration, DOT# and business placard on truck, emergency kit, fire extinguisher, log book if over 100 miles, and 2yr health cert. I kid you not. With the Ford you can get removable magnetic labels for when you tow. Most police in Jersey will not bother small time people unless something looks unsafe. Technically they can fine you a couple of grand. In Maryland there is not much mercy. It is one of those things that they set the number at 10K and because of the weight you are more dangerous. Most of the guys you see towing race cars are in violation, and sometimes get pulled over. Don't really know the situation if you do get in an accident and are not legit. I hate to think it could void liability insurance but you might want to check.

Kermit · « **Reply #270 on:** May 23, 2012, 05:28:49 AM »

Quote from: JConk007 on May 22, 2012, 10:27:44 PM

I have seen used Mobile Ovens here and on craigslist in the USA for as low as $7000 other custom builders offer high end larger models that Can run you upward of $25,000.00 This is the first step no oven no pizza. The you have to pull it ! $38,000 ford F350 4x4?, or $3,000.00 dodge ram 1500. Then it all a matter of the type of events you wish to do ? Private catering, Street fairs, Multi day festivals..... Do you need a mixer $1500-$5500 or going to mix by hand. Do you need a refridgerated prep table $700- $2500 or can you use coolers.. 3 comapartment sink $1500, or bucket with soap ?do you want to use cheapo wooden peels $11 each or Custom GI metal product at $81 ea.? In other words its hard for me to answer ? another guy just spent $180,000.00 on an enclosed. truck mounted Stefano Ferraro oven. I would open my own place before ever plopping down that kind of money but you get the idea I would say to be safe with all the goodies and a decent inventory of required products $25,000.00 ?? Have I talked you out of it yet ??
John

Not at all

Actually, you just sparked the fire a tad more. It's good to know what I might be facing of different challenges, but I think the biggest lesson is that you can choose the expensive way and the cheap way. I guess the best option is right down the middle, and then finding out what you need to have, and what is nice to have.

JConk007 · « **Reply #271 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:51:56 AM »

Dont think I am over 10 K but thanks for the pointers. Just trying to give Kermit some #s to think about. Bottom line there is a lot more to it than meet the eye. (as the lats and atts t shirt says)

Dont dream your Life, Live you Dream !
John

rumper · « **Reply #272 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:53:06 PM »

I have set up a similar business in Australia for about $12000 AUD $8500 oven about $3500 prep fridge, table, esky, etc... (Not including vehicle) It is great fun

JConk007 · « **Reply #273 on:** May 25, 2012, 10:19:02 PM »

Todays Gig, with the exception of 12 pies I have left for sunday I am Taking the rest of the weekend off !!

Here my 2 pic oer week limit. During set up. 45 people with ttent amnd all. Yes steve it called for rain and guess what ? 0. I guess I am boring you all with the pizza shots so I will hold off

sorry all I was getting carried away with the excitement of how well Flirting with Fire going and how the pies were really progressing out of the mobile Have a happy Holiday weekend all !!
John

Tman1 · « **Reply #274 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:57:55 AM »

Quote from: JConk007 on May 23, 2012, 07:51:56 AM

Dont think I am over 10 K but thanks for the pointers. Just trying to give Kermit some #s to think about. Bottom line there is a lot more to it than meet the eye. (as the lats and atts t shirt says)

Dont dream your Life, Live you Dream !
John

FYI: Just about any full size pick-up truck pulling a trailer is over 10,000 pounds. Something they've started to pay attention to here as well.

BrickStoneOven · « **Reply #275 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:43:28 AM »

John do you bring another car with more supplies and equipment or does everything go in the truck?

TXCraig1 · « **Reply #276 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:52:20 PM »

Quote from: Bob1 on May 22, 2012, 10:52:40 PM

John,
One other to thing to mention. Depending on the truck size and trailer weight once you go over a 10,000lbs truck or truck trailer combined you need to be DOT certified. That means registration, DOT# and business placard on truck, emergency kit, fire extinguisher, log book if over 100 miles, and 2yr health cert. I kid you not. With the Ford you can get removable magnetic labels for when you tow. Most police in Jersey will not bother small time people unless something looks unsafe. Technically they can fine you a couple of grand. In Maryland there is not much mercy. It is one of those things that they set the number at 10K and because of the weight you are more dangerous. Most of the guys you see towing race cars are in violation, and sometimes get pulled over. Don't really know the situation if you do get in an accident and are not legit. I hate to think it could void liability insurance but you might want to check.

I don't think this is right. At least not in all states - perhaps it is specific for your state?

Here in Texas, I don't even need a permit for up to 34,000# on tandem axels or 20,000# on a single axel.

CL

Bob1 · « **Reply #277 on:** May 28, 2012, 10:27:06 PM »

Quote from: TXCraig1 on May 28, 2012, 09:52:20 PM

I don't think this is right. At least not in all states - perhaps it is specific for your state?

Here in Texas, I don't even need a permit for up to 34,000# on tandem axels or 20,000# on a single axel.

CL

Craig,
I do not know about Texas but I have trucks that travel in PA, NJ, NY, DE, and MD at times. The Sprinter box trucks are 10,200 each and the one Sprinter van is just under 10,000 but not when towing. I sometimes tow a 5K trailer with a scissor lift. You then have to add the GVW for both. The 10,200 trucks have to have the labels at all time but the van only needs it when towing. Men have been stopped in MD and NJ for routine inspections. It is the real deal and there is no way out. I forgot to mention that you need to stop at weigh stations also. I am based in PA and to get mine I had to go to a mandatory interview with a State Trooper. He assured me it was the case in all the states I do business. It is all on the web if you want to research it.

Bob

Pete-zza · « **Reply #278 on:** May 30, 2012, 10:53:31 AM »

John,

I found the following link over at the PMQ Think Tank and immediately thought of you:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh4-wR9Itw&list=UUr0Nhp8T96ydA8aYAnyeopw&index=10&feature=plcp" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh4-wR9Itw&list=UUr0Nhp8T96ydA8aYAnyeopw&index=10&feature=plcp</a>

. What I found especially interesting is how the profit motive seemed to take a back seat to the love and passion of making the pizzas.

Peter

scott123 · « **Reply #279 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:22:01 PM »

For a family that is SO passionate about their pizza and that spent SUCH a tremendous amount of time online researching the perfect pizza

, one would think they could actually figure out the inherent inferiority of a par-baked crust.