Author Topic: Dough Pizzeria (San Antonio) - Cane Rosso (Dallas) - Bettola (Birmingham)  (Read 2066 times)

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Offline austintjones

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I had the chance to check out three neapolitan pizza places over the past few weeks. What interested me so much about these restaurants specifically was the SF oven at Cane Rosso and the Forno Napoletano ovens at Cane Rosso and Bettola. From everything I know, these are the best ovens in my region (Austin, TX). I had a margherita pizza at all three places.

Cane Rosso:

This is definitely an amazing joint, located in a the very hip, low-key area deep ellum in Dallas. The SF oven was a beautiful centerpiece in the crowded restaurant, which had a casual feel to it, from the crowd, to the menu, to the giant mural on the patio.  The pizza came to my table about 5 minutes from ordering, and to be honest, I was a bit disappointed in its appearance. I wish I took a picture; you'll have to take my word for it. About one half of it was too charred IMO, almost completely black, leaving it a little unpleasantly bitter. The other side of the crust was much better. Aside from the cornicione, the pie was delicious, and balanced well betwee dough, tomatoes, and cheese. The pizza had the perfect amount of "wetness" towards the center, and a great crumb under the excess char. I did some stalking of others' pizzas being dropped off at their tables, and I saw a wide range of appearances amongst them. Some of them were dead perfect IMO, beautifully leoparded and incredibly appetizing, however I did see several more that looked similar to mine. I do wish that the char was just a little less on mine and I would have gotten less bitterness. I understand the the rush of a Friday night crowd challenges the pizzaiolo greatly, and can hurt the overall product, but regardless, it is unfortunate to not receive their best.

Overall it's a great place, I will go back next time I'm in Dallas.

Dough Pizzeria:

I went to dough on a Wednesday night and it was packed, I suppose that says something. The restaurant is in a little strip mall (I hear their moving), and I sat on the patio. I have to say that sitting on the patio in a strip mall is not particularly enjoyable, but then again, it's about the food isn't it! Again, I had a margherita pizza. It was a good pizza, not fantastic, not bad. It was missing that savory flavor that you get from an excellent bite of pizza. All the flavors stood on their own, crust, tomatoes, cheese, basil; they just didn't come together to be spectacular. Again, it could just be my personal preference and the way my palate responds to certain flavors, but the pizza just didn't do that much for me. The crumb was good, but not quite as hydrated as I generally prefer, my guess (based on their repeated throwing of the skins) around 55%. I recently saw that Dough was on Diners Drive-Ins and Dives, which I am sure has contributed to their success. I am critical of them, only because I have had better pizza. Still, it was good and well-crafted, it just didn't have me dancing on the table.

Bettola:

I was traveling through Birmingham the day after eating at Dough in San Antonio and decided it wise to stop off at Bettola, especially since they also have Forno Napoletano oven. The restaurant felt a lot more upscale than either Cane Rosso or Dough, I felt way underdressed in a t-shirt. Here I had a margherita and a marinara. This pizza was pretty amazing. Silky delicious crust, flavorful cheese, and well balanced tomatoes. It definitely had that indescribable umami flavor that you crave in a good pizza. The pie was perfect cooked and leoparded, it looked similar to the perfect pizzas I saw but didn't taste at Cane Rosso. Their advantage was in the fact that I saw a few dozen pies pass by me, all looking exactly the same. I definitely praise the pizzaiolo for his attention to detail amidst the business. My only criticism is that the overall saltiness of the pizzas was quite high IMO, and I love salt. Regardless, I will only eat at one restaurant in Birmingham when I'm passing through: Bettola. By the way, I heard that the chef was nominated for Food and Wine's best new chef? Obviously people are taking notice!

Overall, I enjoyed my time at each of these restaurants and I greatly expect their art and pursuit of great pizza. All three of these places are LEAGUES above any pizza that is attempting neapolitan pizza in Austin. If anyone has checked these places out, let me know, I'd be interested to see if my observations were only based on my single trip and not an overall trend.

Austin


Offline Creeper

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Thanks for the report.

It was esp interesting to read, as I've visited both Dough and Cane Rosso over the past month.  My pizza at Dough was good, but Cane Rosso's specimen was great.  I was there for lunch early on a Saturday, prior to it being very busy... all the pizzas I saw were relatively consistent, though I did see one further down the bar that was pretty charred.  Modest lift on the cornicione but great flavor.  I was impressed.  Very sharp oven.

I'm pretty sure my lunch at Dough fell on a Saturday as well, and I concur with respect to the setting: not ideal.  It was certainly crowded, though.  I took some photos of the oven (it was my first up-close look at a Forno Napoletano), and noticed that the dough balls they were using appeared over-proofed.  To the point of almost being deflated.  That said, the finished product was good.

Have you tried Backspace in Austin?

As for the SF oven... there's one on its way to Austin as I type...

Offline pizzablogger

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From everything I know, these are the best ovens in my region (Austin, TX).
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Forget the region.....those are some of the best ovens on the planet.

Thank you for the detailed field report on these three places.

I would imagine the DDD spot on Food Network for Dough Pizzeria has that place mobbed. I saw that segment...impressive that they make their own mozzarella, burrata, ricotta and other cheeses, with the burrata being made to order. Nuts.

Il Cane Rosso is handling a very heavy volume of pizzas on a daily basis. Jay is certainly cranking out more than a good amount of the Neopolitan places back East....even the more well regarded places.

I may be in Birmingham this Fall and Bettola is on my radar.

Thanks for the great write-up!  :D
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Offline austintjones

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Have you tried Backspace in Austin?

As for the SF oven... there's one on its way to Austin as I type...


I have tried backspace. It's the sister restaurant of another Austin hot-spot, Parkside. I went there a couple months ago and had a very average pizza, but that was right after the place was up and running. I would be interested in giving it another shot now that it has been open for a few months.

And is there seriously a SF oven on it's way to Austin??? If this is true I need details asap.

Austin

Offline austintjones

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Forget the region.....those are some of the best ovens on the planet.

Thank you for the detailed field report on these three places.

I would imagine the DDD spot on Food Network for Dough Pizzeria has that place mobbed. I saw that segment...impressive that they make their own mozzarella, burrata, ricotta and other cheeses, with the burrata being made to order. Nuts.


It is pretty crazy that they make the burrata to order, however it honestly was flat in flavor as well. Burrata is a fantastic cheese, and this definitely wasn't my favorite. Still, quite impressive that the pump that out every time an order comes in!

Austin

Offline TXCraig1

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It is pretty crazy that they make the burrata to order, however it honestly was flat in flavor as well. Burrata is a fantastic cheese, and this definitely wasn't my favorite. Still, quite impressive that the pump that out every time an order comes in!

Austin

I'm pretty sure they don't make it to order.
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Offline jjerrier2450

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Sorry about the charred pizza at Cane Rosso...in the future, if it is not cooked exactly how you want it, I am more than happy to remake it in a couple of minutes.  We do 400-500 pizzas per day on Fri and Sat and I try to look at every pie that goes out top and bottom, but if we are clobbered a few do indeed slip through.  I tell my Expo to give a second look but sometimes I don't think he wants to tell me the pizzas look crappy :).

On Dough, I am pretty positive they do make the burrata to order...since DDD they may not be able to do that if it is crazy high volume...but when I was there a couple of years ago they were making it to order.

Offline TXCraig1

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Maybe it's the definition of "making" that is the source of the confusion.
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Pancho, the pizziolo at Bettolo, has the magic!  They're doing a great job.  it's probably the best i've seen at any place where they cook pizza and everything else in the same oven.  They are opening a charcuterie place next door soon.  can't wait for that too. 
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Offline DocSpine

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So the big question is when is the pizzamaking forum day at Cane Rosso? A meet and great of TX members would be great.