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I mixed enough dough for 6 Lehmann dough balls for 14” pizzas on Friday.  These Lehmann dough balls were for my great-granddaughter’s birthday party yesterday. The dough was mixed in my Kitchen Aid mixer.  I thought since children and adults both like pizza, I would make some pizzas at my granddaughter’s home, and teach my youngest daughter how to stretch open a dough ball, dress a pizza, and slide it into the oven from a peel.  My youngest daughter had lived in Brooklyn, NY for a long while, so she never had a chance to learn to make pizza.

I mixed the Lehmann dough by first putting the water in the mixer bowl, followed by the oil in the water, then dumped the flour with IDY and Morton’s Kosher salt, (sprinkled the Morton‘s Kosher salt on the one side of the flour and IDY on the other side of the flour) and mixed until the mixture came together, and then mixed for 6 minutes on speed 1.  Then the dough balls were formed and lightly oiled with olive oil, before putting them into plastic containers.

The Lehmann dough balls had a two day cold ferment.  I wanted to see how dough balls would ferment in different size plastic containers, so I used different size containers to place the dough balls in.  I was somewhat surprised at how the different dough ball expanded in the different containers.  They looked like the dough balls expanded differently, but I can understand that the smaller plastic containers had no where else to go but up in the smaller plastic containers when fermenting.

I never baked in a natural gas home oven before, so I had no idea of how the pizzas would bake.  I had forgot my IR gun at market Friday, so I had no way of knowing what temperature the oven or pizza stone were.  I guess my granddaughters natural gas home oven gets higher in temperature than my home electric oven because the pizzas did seem to bake faster than my home electric oven.   I made the first pizza and let my daughter watch how I stretched the dough ball out, dress the pizza, and slide it onto the stone, then let her try to open the rest of the dough balls, dress the pies, and slide the pizzas onto the stone in the oven.  The Lehmann dough even was so easy for my daughter to work with and she had no trouble opening the dough balls.  For my daughter being a first time pizza maker she did a great job!  :) The only problem she had was when she went to slide the one pizza off the peel onto the pizza stone.  It wasn’t perfectly round, but that sure wasn’t bad for a first time pizza maker.

Everyone at the birthday party really liked the Lehmann dough pizzas. Now my youngest daughter also wants to learn how to make pizza dough.  :-D

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 08:31:01 AM »
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 08:32:07 AM »
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 08:40:23 AM »
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 10:27:16 AM »
A great-grandma that can make some of the best pizza around? Now that is one lucky kid! And cute too!

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 10:27:50 AM »
Norma, your dough in the containers look really healthy and nice.  Your pizzas are also looking better than ever.  That's really great that you are teaching the ggk how to make pizza.  They must think their ggm is a superhero with special powers.  :-D

And the little ones first pizza is a 100x better than my first.  She must have a good teacher.

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 10:38:58 AM »
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Looks like you were a busy grandma yesterday. I made pizzas for my son's birthday, but I only had to make 2. My son loves NY style, just sauce and cheese. You'll see one next week at MPM. Teach them young, someday you can sit back and let them make pies for you! ;)
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 11:02:24 AM »
Great grandma,Norma,I think the pizzas are the best since they are more meaningful with love.

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 11:05:10 AM »
Norma,

Very nice job.

Would you mind posting the Lehmann dough formulation you used? What most people do not realize is that the bulk of the people who visit the forum have just basic equipment, including standard unmodified home ovens, with which to make their pizzas. They might find what you did to be of value in helping them make better pizzas in their home ovens.

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 11:40:39 AM »
A great-grandma that can make some of the best pizza around? Not that is one lucky kid! And cute too!

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John,

Thanks!  :) When my great-granddaughter or grandchildren see me at my pizza stand, or I visit them, they always ask say pizza, pizza.  :pizza: That is why I thought about making pizza at my granddaughter’s home yesterday for my great-granddaughter’s birthday party.  The great-granddaughter that had the birthday yesterday ate 3 slices of pizza, but leaves the bones.  :-D

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 11:48:52 AM »
Norma, your dough in the containers look really healthy and nice.  Your pizzas are also looking better than ever.  That's really great that you are teaching the ggk how to make pizza.  They must think their ggm is a superhero with special powers.  :-D

And the little ones first pizza is a 100x better than my first.  She must have a good teacher.

Chau

Chau,

Thanks for saying the dough in the containers looked healthy.  :) It was really hot in my granddaughters kitchen yesterday, so the dough did ferment quickly.  We made 3 pizzas, then ate other foods, then the birthday cakes and ice cream, then went back to making pizzas. 

My great-granddaughter and 2 other grand children that were there yesterday only were interested in eating the pizzas.  They really weren’t interested in making them.  I think most children do love pizza.

It was my youngest daughter that made the 5 pizzas.

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2012, 11:55:26 AM »
Norma

Looks like you were a busy grandma yesterday. I made pizzas for my son's birthday, but I only had to make 2. My son loves NY style, just sauce and cheese. You'll see one next week at MPM. Teach them young, someday you can sit back and let them make pies for you! ;)

Dave,

Only my youngest daughter and I were in the kitchen and she likes to cook, and asked if she could try to make pizzas.  I said why not.  I was surprised at how good of a job she did.  My first attempts were disasters.  :-D

Great to hear your son loves NY style.  Don’t tell me he only eats the sauce and cheese and not your crust!  :o I will watch for the pie you post on MPM next week. 

Hopefully, I will be able to teach each one something about pizza someday.

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 11:56:28 AM »
Great grandma,Norma,I think the pizzas are the best since they are more meaningful with love.


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Thanks so much!  :)

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 12:02:04 PM »
Norma,

Very nice job.

Would you mind posting the Lehmann dough formulation you used? What most people do not realize is that the bulk of the people who visit the forum have just basic equipment, including standard unmodified home ovens, with which to make their pizzas. They might find what you did to be of value in helping them make better pizzas in their home ovens.

I made two batches of the Lehmann dough in the Kitchen Aid mixer.

Peter

Peter,

Thanks!  :)

This is the Lehmann dough formulation I used for a two day cold ferment for yesterday.  

I was worried about trying a different oven yesterday, but it went okay.  My granddaughter’s natural gas oven sure was standard and unmodified.  

Hopefully, the formulation, or even my daughter being a first time pizza maker will help someone.

Norma
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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 12:04:08 AM »
Norma,

I want to know when did you take the picture of the doughs in different containers?(just taking out of ther refrigerator or after fermented at room?)
I could see they have rosen more and I'd like to know the status of the dough in each stage as a newbie...

and I wonder if the yeast you use are little more?and I do not know what is your room temperature and water temperature?any opinion about your receipe?

Gray

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Re: Lehmann dough pizzas for my great-granddaughter’s 2nd birthday party
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 07:12:00 AM »
Norma,

I want to know when did you take the picture of the doughs in different containers?(just taking out of ther refrigerator or after fermented at room?)
I could see they have rosen more and I'd like to know the status of the dough in each stage as a newbie...

and I wonder if the yeast you use are little more?and I do not know what is your room temperature and water temperature?any opinion about your receipe?

Gray

Gray,

The first sets of pictures were taken right after I had balled them right out of the mixer.  The final dough temperatures for the 2 batches of Lehmann doughs were 76.8 degrees F. and 74.4 degrees F.  My kitchen was cool when I was mixing the 2 batches of dough.  I have learned though making so many doughs, to somewhat know just by feeling the water, about where my final dough temperature will be when the dough is finished mixing. The dough balls then were placed in different parts of the refrigerator.  My home refrigerator gets opened and shut many times in a days time.  The dough balls on the top shelf fermented more than the dough balls on the bottom shelf.  I purposely put the dough balls in different containers to see how they would ferment in my home refrigerator.  The smaller containers were on the top shelf.  To me, they did look like they fermented a lot more, but I can’t be sure, because the dough had no where but up to go, but I believe my top shelf is warmer.

The pictures of the dough balls in single containers were taken about 4 hrs before I went to my granddaughter home.  The dough balls then were left out at room temperature in her hot kitchen for about 1 ˝ hrs or a little more.  Some of the dough balls in the smaller containers had reached the lid before they were baked into pizzas.  One even had a huge bubble on the top.  If I had to guess, the dough balls in my granddaughter’s kitchen were sitting out at about 87 degrees F or higher in temperature.  Her kitchen is somewhat small and her stove had also been on before we starting heating the oven, so it got very warm in the kitchen.  

While we were eating cake and ice cream 3 of the dough balls were put back into the refrigerator, because they looked like they were really fermenting too fast.  Then they were taken out and opened cold.  They really weren’t as cold as when I first took them to her home.  

This is one more picture I didn’t post before of the dough balls sitting in my granddaughter’s kitchen after awhile.  It can be seen on this picture a little better how the dough balls were fermenting.

I don’t know how to answer your question about the yeast.  It was IDY that I used in the formulation.

If you have any other questions, or any I didn’t answer, just ask.  

Norma

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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 11:41:26 AM »
Norma,

Thanks for your detail explanation,data and pictures,that would give me more help.
As a newbie,I want to see more,know more,ask more and try more,and all can not do without help of people,like you,in the great forum.
Since the first experiment of dough obviously fail,I even do not know when I could use the dough.Maybe the flour I use is not good(I have no idea yet),the dough after 4 days fermentation,only spread more flat and seem rose a little.So when I saw your pictures rising more,I like to ask you when you took them,and I may assume that it is abnormal of my dough.

Also if you do not mind,I think I could consult more to you next since I decide to try pizza or else in commercial like you.Oh,one think I have to say that I can't believe as a grandma of a kid also running a shop and keep on learning,that I have to express my admiration.

And Norma,I recall you mention that the market available only one day one week,when will you mix the dough and how long the dough stay in cold fermentation before you use them?and how is the batch and amount as dough you make one time?as for commercial,I like to know more or any suggestion about will be more appreciated.

Gray 

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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2012, 02:10:42 PM »
Norma,

Great looking NewYorkers! You are on your game aren't you. Sounds like everyone had a great time!
Leaves the bones...ha!...you crack me up!.....she just wants the gaaraavey Great Grandma Norma!!! ;D

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