So I spent the last 2 weekends attempting Chicago deep dish using vcb's recipe on his website. The first 2 I made I followed the recipe exactly. Not sure what did it but the crust was very hard on the bottom, not as tender as I hoped for. I think I probably should have cooked it in the pan directly on the oven rack instead of the stone. Of course I could have just overcooked the whole thing too. The crust had good flavor though. The rest of the pizza was good, I just need more sauce and cheese to please the family.