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Offline cheeseplease

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Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« on: March 25, 2012, 10:54:31 PM »
Hello everyone, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Dave, this is an alias. I am probably being very paranoid, but you must understand that for the moment, I really need my job. I cannot do anything that may jeopardize that.

Right anyway. I am currently working as a delivery driver in the UK for a big pizza chain (the one with the dice), and I have noticed lots of areas within the business that I could possibly vastly improve on.
The US and UK seem to be run differently to a certain extent, and i don't believe that my owner's/franchisee's understand this, they seem to have run out the red carpet for a very American style of running their business.
At this point I should explain something. I studied Business Management at University and it's quite odd and insulting that thanks to this round of recession I cannot get mid corporate management career without "experience" so for the moment I am stuck. (as I said, I really need my job)

I didn't put on my application that I had a Degree, I was worried they may give me the "overqualified" BS line.

So here is me at my current point. I think if I sat down for a week or so, I could draw up a professional looking plan for my owner, increasing his productivity and streamlining his make line would be quite easy as there is a lot of wastage at this store.
I'm having an internal debate, should i make my self known, try to show off to my boss? From how quickly staff get moved between his stores, a management position would open up quickly if he liked what he sees. I could then work up from there and could end up at the franchisee's board if/when I made the capital.
My main problem with this idea is that firstly, I will have to tell him i lied on my application form, and that actually i'm more qualified than him for his position. I have 4 years of Uni, he took a Course with "Casino's Pizza" on "how to be a franchisee". Secondly, then I tell him that although his business looks successful on the veneer, the model may actually suck.

The second part of me says ; learn what you can from the business, even if it is only "don't run it like this". Save capital and try to get a loan for my own shop.
This feels risky, even though I am pounding my Uni course down your face on this board, I really did not even think about setting up my own business. I saw how much I could make in the upper sectors of large corporate's and had fully intended that as my career. It is really only my circumstance that has made me even consider it.

So I joined this board to absorb as much as I can about opening my own pizzeria, even if it is only to say "I don't think you can do that".


So, thanks for my rant, I'm sorry if i bored the living poop out of you. But after taking incompatible orders from teenage Prima Donna's all bloody day, i felt the need to vent.

Thank you!


tl;dr :crap job, crap boss, should I make a change or just suck it up?             


Offline scott123

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Re: Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2012, 05:22:32 AM »
Rather than writing up a 'professional plan', I would start small.  Find the most wasteful aspect of their operation and, when you get a chance, mention it to your boss and see how he responds. Make it really casual- "Hey, why do you guys do this? Wouldn't this produce less waste?"  If he responds favorably, then amp it up. If he brushes you off, then back off, be grateful for the job and set your sights on your own place.

My guess is that if he's selling Dominos pizza, he probably doesn't really care about waste. Everything that I've heard about UK Dominos pizza has been abysmal.  American Dominos pizza is especially bad, but they find a way to push the inedible envelope even further at the UK locations.

Offline SquirrelFlight

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Re: Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 04:23:01 PM »
Everything that I've heard about UK Dominos pizza has been abysmal.  American Dominos pizza is especially bad, but they find a way to push the inedible envelope even further at the UK locations.

I spent about 4 months in the Brighton area a couple years ago and my (admittedly limited) opinion is that UK pizza is pretty abysmal, in general.  There was one decent little hole-in-the-wall pizzeria near where we lived, but the "number two" prize went to (gasp!) Pizza Hut...

I don't think it would take too much to dramatically improve things if someone really wanted to.

Offline scott123

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Re: Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 04:50:41 PM »
I don't think it would take too much to dramatically improve things if someone really wanted to.

Actually someone has already stepped in and is dramatically improving things in the Brighton area. But the chains are still thriving, though.

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Re: Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 05:17:08 PM »
Actually someone has already stepped in and is dramatically improving things in the Brighton area. But the chains are still thriving, though.

Excellent!

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Offline Jimbo111

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Re: Working for a Pizza chain, UK.
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 01:40:47 PM »
Perhaps you might try excelling in the position you have now, and if/when noticed they might ask for your opinion on something else.  I'm thinking if you mention your schooling now, it's going to put your bosses on the defensive and make you not so popular because they could feel threatened... I think the term might be, "cheeky bugger?"  But I don't speak Brit. :)

I think saving for your own place is a very good idea.  The corporate environment is not often a place open to new ideas and trying different things.  Most times it's a, "this is the way we do it here," mentality and creativity is not appreciated, even sometimes "punished."

Many a successful shop and franchise has been started in a kitchen oven by the way.  Legend has it, Famous Amos an American cookie entrepreneur started by baking cookies in his home and giving them away until he had perfected his recipe and gained a following.  You could consider making pizzas at your flat for your mates for a while until you become the go to guy for a great pie.  Just a thought but your probably already doing it.

Another idea might be to take a job at a smaller shop, where you could learn all the aspects of the biz, and even be running the show yourself from time to time, after your bosses learn to trust you. (I can almost see you throwing those pies in the air now...)  This might give you an excellent base of knowledge when you go to open your own "House of pizza."  IMHO the righteous boss can do any job in the house, and do it extremely well.  In this way, the people who work with you always have respect for you.

Speak softly and carry a big wheel of cheese.  :)

Jimbo
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