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« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2013, 06:14:17 PM »
I'm sure I have.

Not just big bubbles, but also with the stringy little things.
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« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »
Yes but I've made so many different doughs it's hard to keep track.  Next time I do a room temp dough and I see it I'll post a pic. 

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« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2013, 06:40:03 PM »
I don't cold ferment. I've had plenty of big bubbles, but I've never seen the spider webs.
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« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2013, 07:13:28 PM »
I don't cold ferment. I've had plenty of big bubbles, but I've never seen the spider webs.


Oh so you've never tasted the spider web texture?

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« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2013, 07:16:24 PM »

Oh so you've never tasted the spider web texture?

No. Only seen it in pictures.
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« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2013, 07:17:03 PM »
No. Only seen it in pictures.

Time to make some cold ferments.
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« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2013, 07:40:29 PM »
Time to make some cold ferments.

I'll look forward to seeing your pictures.
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« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2013, 12:33:18 PM »
I'll look forward to seeing your pictures.

Actually I was referring to you.  I know you use a starter so may need to use some IDY.
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« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2013, 01:38:06 PM »
Actually I was referring to you.  I know you use a starter so may need to use some IDY.

Craig using IDY with a cold ferment? I can't see that happening.   :-D

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« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2013, 02:48:25 PM »
PE101:
I think what you are making reference to is called "open crumb structure" aka "open grain". The best way that I know to get this characteristic is through a combination of high dough absorption and high baking temperature when combined with sufficient fermentation time (usually 2 to 3-days in the fridge).
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« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2013, 03:24:31 PM »
60% hydration, 17hr cold ferment
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« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2013, 11:27:20 PM »
PE101:
I think what you are making reference to is called "open crumb structure" aka "open grain". The best way that I know to get this characteristic is through a combination of high dough absorption and high baking temperature when combined with sufficient fermentation time (usually 2 to 3-days in the fridge).
Tom Lehmann/The Dough Doctor

I could be wrong but I guessed we were talking about something different than an open crumb, right? I thought pythonics pic above was spider webbing and this is a pic of open crumb. Or, am I being a nit?

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« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2013, 11:30:20 PM »
Jeff you are not being a nit.  There is a difference between the 2 and the discussion is about spiderwebbing.

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« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2013, 08:49:41 AM »
I agree. There is "open crumb structure," and there is "zero crumb structure." I would classify the spider webs as the latter.
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« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2013, 10:10:00 AM »
I agree. There is "open crumb structure," and there is "zero crumb structure." I would classify the spider webs as the latter.

I agree.  I see it as an after or residual effect.  All the support or structure is in the shell.

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« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2013, 08:53:51 PM »
The spider web or, as I call it, ghost crumb is a form of a Cyclops. A freak of nature that can't be reliably duplicated so why waste your time?
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