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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 10:24:00 AM »
Yes, if you personally equate your pizzamaking with Michelangelo painting, you're wrong before you ever get started.
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 10:27:07 AM »
I'm not saying anyone is doing that - just pointing out the irony of doing so if they did.
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 11:06:56 AM »
This is what I was tryng to say in this thread...

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,18303.msg180434.html#msg180434

It's crazy that people would even elevate pizzamakers to this status.  No doubt these guys make a great product, but how is that any different than the hundreds of thousands of great cooks out there?

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2012, 01:02:45 PM »
This is what I was tryng to say in this thread...

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,18303.msg180434.html#msg180434

It's crazy that people would even elevate pizzamakers to this status.  No doubt these guys make a great product, but how is that any different than the hundreds of thousands of great cooks out there?

I think people here in America especially the media give them too much credit - even more than the Neapolitans although I don't blame them for coming here and acting like rock stars.

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2012, 01:39:13 PM »
 think about how important food has become to so many people. foodies, publicists,and bloggers really drive the industry. today a restaurant can be recognized world wide and it is all because of the internet. do you all realize that the opinions of this membership is important to restaurants as well as manufacturers of pizza related goods.think about how many people know the name of caputo flour because of pm.com, or have tried a particular pizzeria because it was reviewed here.
 that best part of that video is when Don Antonio talks about family and the sincere reaction Roberto has to the comment.say what you want but these guys take a lot of pride in what they do. the pizza may not be always perfect ,but i am sure that is their goal.

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2012, 01:59:26 PM »
Very well said Larry.  Nothing wrong with taking pride in one's work either. 

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2012, 03:13:07 PM »
Wow this has turned into a pizzamakers thread.  Yes very well said indeed Larry ! And we will get it back on topic  next week !Doing the best they can at all times. That's what is important. Roberto can't be and should not be at this point in his career spreading dough and spinning pizza. He is responsible for the " restaurant" and of course great pizza  I totally respect these guys and their product and I am confident our upcoming trip will prove  again how good the real deal really is! we all have off days I had a bake few week back ( was not even drunk Craig!)  and it turned out so bad I did not even mention it never mind put up a picture. (*^IT happens) really looking forward to going back and hope Roberto is there he is allways such a pleasure to talk pizza passion with
Back off topic
Ponder this
At Amano the new pizza maker (few months?)  has admittedly not had a lot of experience in the pizza world  or rest. For that matter, accountant? Any way- he took Roberto's  course, and is now the pizzaiolo there at Amano
Do you think if he makes your pizza or Roberto and you did a blindfold test you could tell the difference??
I am just  guessing  but to a few of us pizza freaks? answer for me is odds are you can.
Or
As Scott said it it the dough that "is" the pizza   .?
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2012, 04:08:21 PM »
we all have off days I had a bake few week back ( was not even drunk Craig!)  and it turned out so bad I did not even mention it never mind put up a picture. (*^IT happens)

If I can get to where I can make a good pie when sloshed, semi-sober should be a no-brainer.  :-D You gotta post the bad pics too, or you forget what you did wrong and do it again. At least I would.

« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 04:11:46 PM by TXCraig1 »
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2012, 04:11:36 PM »
(quote)"I'm not sure, you understand italian.
But if you did, you would catch the arrogance and the sense of superiority that comes out of that guy mouths when it says "Vera, Veeeeerrrrraaaaa" ..." (quote)


I'm fluent in Italian & I would call it Pride; not arrogance.
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2012, 08:34:09 PM »
(quote)"I'm not sure, you understand italian.
But if you did, you would catch the arrogance and the sense of superiority that comes out of that guy mouths when it says "Vera, Veeeeerrrrraaaaa" ..." (quote)


I'm fluent in Italian & I would call it Pride; not arrogance.

hahahah nice.. but I will say it's a bit of both, After all he is not Italian. he is Napolatan  ;D

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2012, 08:38:51 PM »
think about how important food has become to so many people. foodies, publicists,and bloggers really drive the industry. today a restaurant can be recognized world wide and it is all because of the internet. do you all realize that the opinions of this membership is important to restaurants as well as manufacturers of pizza related goods.think about how many people know the name of caputo flour because of pm.com, or have tried a particular pizzeria because it was reviewed here.
 that best part of that video is when Don Antonio talks about family and the sincere reaction Roberto has to the comment.say what you want but these guys take a lot of pride in what they do. the pizza may not be always perfect ,but i am sure that is their goal.

so true. and I think going back to the early 80's with wolfgang puck, the media wanted to know who cooks for the celebrities at the governors ball. who is this amazing chef?  once the media took off on that, we saw a whole new birth of the Celebrity chef!
the celebrity status, the money they make, it's crazy.
mario batali I mean here is a great example. he got lucky with Babbo and media wanted a  celebrity chef and they fueled him. and now look at him.  so many chefs like him are celebrity.  The media are always looking for stories, and the media create stars over night.
check out this article.
the best pizzeria in America
http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/best-pizza-spots-in-the-u-s-.html
guess who didn't make the list?

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2012, 09:03:50 PM »
(quote)"I'm not sure, you understand italian.
But if you did, you would catch the arrogance and the sense of superiority that comes out of that guy mouths when it says "Vera, Veeeeerrrrraaaaa" ..." (quote)


I'm fluent in Italian & I would call it Pride; not arrogance.

I call it arrogance because with those words and that emphasis he does not even respect his own partner and all other pizza makers that have been doing great neapolitan pizza in the USA for years, as if he would be the first one, the chosen one, the child of God sent to NY to show how to make real pizza ... will he be crucified and resurrect 3 day after in Caputo Plant in Napoli?

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2012, 06:27:56 AM »
I call it arrogance because with those words and that emphasis he does not even respect his own partner and all other pizza makers that have been doing great neapolitan pizza in the USA for years, as if he would be the first one, the chosen one, the child of God sent to NY to show how to make real pizza ... will he be crucified and resurrect 3 day after in Caputo Plant in Napoli?

Ok.....you win! By the way, your last statement is beyond ridiculous.
Why is it that every time you post something it's an argument?  Here's a thought, how about posting something that's actually helpful.  It's clear that you hate Caputo, Startita and the AVPN; dude, get over it and post something of benefit to other members.

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2012, 07:07:36 AM »
I would call it Pride; not arrogance.

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2012, 07:20:21 AM »
i have met Starita at a expo here in Brazil, it was a very pleasent conversation, and i never felt any arrogance coming from him, i think Italian, specially Neapolitans are very folkloric about everything (specially food), so for Americans that are more centered and not used to this kind of theatrical talk, sometimes it may look like arrogance.
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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2012, 09:01:52 AM »
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Why is it that every time you post something it's an argument?  Here's a thought, how about posting something that's actually helpful.  It's clear that you hate Caputo, Startita and the AVPN; dude, get over it and post something of benefit to other members.

Well said matt - I couldn't agree with you more! You can add Roberto's name to his hate list.

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2012, 09:17:28 AM »
Ok.....you win! By the way, your last statement is beyond ridiculous.
Why is it that every time you post something it's an argument?  Here's a thought, how about posting something that's actually helpful.  It's clear that you hate Caputo, Startita and the AVPN; dude, get over it and post something of benefit to other members.

Matt

It's not abut winning, it's about stating the fact and impression.
Sorry if I hurt someone's sensibility by using a strong analogy.
You're right, it was too strong, but it was a joke and it should only be seen as that.
Italian humor sometimes pushes it too hard for a very conservative audience.

I see arrogance, you see pride (which many identify with arrogance as well).

Hate? I don't hate anyone. I just state fact.
It is evident to me for example that the video (which is not an editorial, but a commissioned video ... someone paid for it) is an advertising tool for someone.
Look how many time a certain company logo comes through that video, at least 14 times.
That's why I used that analogy ... it's like the old guy was sent here on an advertising campaign.


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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2012, 06:10:27 PM »
at the begining of the video they show caputo semolina flour . i wounder if they use that for their dusting?

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2012, 07:04:37 PM »
It's not abut winning, it's about stating the fact and impression.
Sorry if I hurt someone's sensibility by using a strong analogy.
You're right, it was too strong, but it was a joke and it should only be seen as that.
Italian humor sometimes pushes it too hard for a very conservative audience.

I see arrogance, you see pride (which many identify with arrogance as well).

Hate? I don't hate anyone. I just state fact.
It is evident to me for example that the video (which is not an editorial, but a commissioned video ... someone paid for it) is an advertising tool for someone.
Look how many time a certain company logo comes through that video, at least 14 times.
That's why I used that analogy ... it's like the old guy was sent here on an advertising campaign.


I am as far from conservative as you can get.  It's not about that at all.  What you are stating is not fact rather an opinion.  You're free to state your opinion freely but you've already beat that horse into submission & it's time to move on.  Now that is fact.   

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2012, 09:31:57 PM »
 the video was shot by a company called full plate productions. it is run by sky dylan robbins. she did that segment called the spirituality of food.she has a lot of segments relating to neapolitan pizza

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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2012, 09:42:23 PM »
It is evident to me for example that the video (which is not an editorial, but a commissioned video ... someone paid for it) is an advertising tool for someone.
Look how many time a certain company logo comes through that video, at least 14 times.
That's why I used that analogy ... it's like the old guy was sent here on an advertising campaign.
If that's all you choose to see in the video, then I guess it's your loss. ::)

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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2012, 07:18:21 AM »
Lauren Visits Hot Spot Don Antonio.  Lauren Scala heads to her newest obsession, Don Antonio for some of the most authentic Neapolitan pizza around. By New York Live

Antonio Starita & Roberto Caporuscio teach Lauren Scala how to make pizza Napoletana.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/#!/shows/newyorklive/Lauren-Visits-Hot-Spot-Don-Antonio/146165105

Edit:  
I donít know why that link to the video doesnít work, but if anyone is interested, they can scroll down to NY Live, click on that link, type in Lauren Visits Hot Spot Don Antonio in the search and the video should come up.


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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2012, 07:59:31 AM »
Thanks Norma for sharing.  Not sure why the link doesn't work either when I tried to repost the link.   As Norma said, scroll all the way to the bottom and click on NY Live.

Her first pizza looks awesome.
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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2012, 10:30:31 AM »
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/#!/shows/newyorklive/Lauren-Visits-Hot-Spot-Don-Antonio/146165105


Lauren Visits Hot Spot Don Antonio.  Lauren Scala heads to her newest obsession, Don Antonio for some of the most authentic Neapolitan pizza around. By New York Live

Antonio Starita & Roberto Caporuscio teach Lauren Scala how to make pizza Napoletana.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/#!/shows/newyorklive/Lauren-Visits-Hot-Spot-Don-Antonio/146165105

Edit:  
I donít know why that link to the video doesnít work, but if anyone is interested, they can scroll down to NY Live, click on that link, type in Lauren Visits Hot Spot Don Antonio in the search and the video should come up.


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Re: Video on Don Antonio
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2012, 01:06:59 AM »

It is evident to me for example that the video (which is not an editorial, but a commissioned video ... someone paid for it) is an advertising tool for someone.
Look how many time a certain company logo comes through that video, at least 14 times.
That's why I used that analogy ... it's like the old guy was sent here on an advertising campaign.


I perfectly agree with this statement too, if anyone thinks that Roberto is not doing marketing then most folk here do not own their own restaurants or never have.
of course that video and most of the other videos are commissioned pieces, sure the odd paper or internet video blog will ask to do a free editorial, and roberto might say yes, any exposure is better than nothing. but that video looks professionally made.
I feel like Roberto and some of the other guys are copying Anthony mangerie videos he got professionally made.
it seems to be a trend now among pizza shop owners. Even difara jumped on the band  wagon.
and a lot of it is like marketing campaigns which are professionally made to look like they are amateur made.
it's what celebrities are doing now with premeditated paparazzi pictures. they have a freelancer photographer take pictures of them at the beach or leaving some place or kissing some other celebrities to make it look like it's a real accidental paparazzi picture, but in actual fact it was all staged and planned and then sent to TMZ or who ever. it's a great way to get free exposure. like being caught with a DUI or going to Rehab. many stars stage it for the free publicity. I don't need to tell you guys about the pamela anderson, paris hilton, kim kardasian sex tapes.. which were all "stolen" from their houses and then sold to TMZ illegally. yeah right.....  ::)