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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #125 on: November 18, 2013, 05:17:23 PM »
No, the cooking stone need more time to heat

without mod 12min to get around 450C

with the mod after 12 min 360C -  after 13 min 440C

but the air temperature inside the dome rises quickly
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« Reply #126 on: November 18, 2013, 05:19:07 PM »
Don Luigi, that looks really good for having only a single top element.  I read elsewhere that you've modded the thermostat.  Did you bend the governor/limiter tab out of the way?  Or are you just using a fan to cool it?  I'm wondering if your element stays on 100% of the time.

I actually have two ovens - a Bestron 9070 on which the thermostat is cooled by a fan and the Napoli Clone (which cooked the above Pizza) on which I "recalibrated" the thermostat by turning its internal srew counter clockwise. In both ovens the top element is always on. I preheat the stone to approximately 350-380C and then shove the Pizza in and turn the thermostat up to make sure the Top Element stays on. On my Napoli Clone the reflective alumium pie and the central heat deflector really did wonders to the outcome.

@Sub: Thanks alot! Your Pizzas and modding to the ovens are really a great inspiration! 
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« Reply #127 on: November 20, 2013, 03:00:01 PM »
Thanks I'm glad !

Another good topic about the mods from Vespa72 Modifica della doppia resistenza e pietra rotante forno pizza express M.L. G3 Ferrari

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« Reply #128 on: November 20, 2013, 05:18:03 PM »
Thanks I'm glad !

Another good topic about the mods from Vespa72 Modifica della doppia resistenza e pietra rotante forno pizza express M.L. G3 Ferrari
I can't read a word, but great pictures in there.  Love the controller.  Is the warranty still intact on that unit? ;D
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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #129 on: November 26, 2013, 06:46:50 PM »
Today's pies

Caputo pizzeria 65% hydration, cake yeast 0.5g / liter.

42 hours for the margharita (24h in bulk and 18h in ball ) and 49h for the others (25h in balls)

Baking time around 1m20'


 

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« Reply #130 on: November 26, 2013, 08:31:33 PM »
Wow, they just keep getting better and better, sub!

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« Reply #131 on: November 27, 2013, 10:43:40 AM »
Very nice.
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« Reply #132 on: November 27, 2013, 11:53:27 AM »
Sub, are those cooked in your oven with the rotating stone?

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« Reply #133 on: November 27, 2013, 12:48:44 PM »
Pies are cooked in the Bestron, I only used the motor few time because it don't run smoothly and get stuck sometimes (I need a a drill column to make a hole perpendicular for the  stone holder )

I do a half turn manualy of the stone after 40 seconds with the handle.

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« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2013, 02:25:34 PM »
Hi guys,

I've been reading your experiences with the pizza makers for awhile and really enjoy them. I'm newbie in this matter so please be a little patience  ;).   I stared doing the mods for my Demi Pizza Bella 2100 but  I got stuck  trying to have the stone rotating. When the stone rotates is a little wavy and touch the base and stop when I close the upper part of the oven.I assume that I have to sand the stone  at least like 1/2 cm so the lid can close freely, but I do not how to resolve the problem with the stone going up and down. Anyone of you guys could give some advise? Thank you for reading this post.

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« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2013, 03:59:20 PM »
Hi Fernando,

What mod do you talk about, the manual or with the motor ?

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« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2013, 08:23:40 PM »
Hi Sub,

Thank you for your interest. I am talking about the one with the motor, but I would like to know about the manual also. If you could direct me would be great. At the end anyone that works is fine with me, I do not want to open the lid to turn the pizza, that's my goal :D

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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #138 on: December 04, 2013, 08:23:00 AM »
For manual method:

Remove one handle from the stone
bend the eyelets who hold the handle, you can also shape the metal part like me.
Sand the edges of the two metallic parts who holds the stone.
Put the handle near the left or Right leg

to turn the pie: take the handle of the oven an lift it up a little bit, with the other hand take the handle of the stone and make a circular move to rotate it
et voila !   


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« Reply #139 on: December 04, 2013, 08:49:08 AM »
Wow Sub, really helpful reply.  I'm sure you have many fans (like me).
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« Reply #140 on: December 04, 2013, 09:54:44 AM »
Hey Sub you are the boss and definitely I am a fan of yours also. I think you are of the most helpful person in any of the forum that I belong (espresso and tennis also). In spite of you have been very clear with both of the mods, please let me ask you on more question in regards the manual rotation. My model does not have the handle and the stone rest over the upper part of the base of the pizza maker, Can I still make the mod for manual rotation or my only solution is the motor? and my last question, how many languages do you speak man? You also are in the Italians forums I can tell  :-D

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« Reply #141 on: December 04, 2013, 01:49:07 PM »
Wow Sub, really helpful reply.  I'm sure you have many fans (like me).
Dave
Thanks Dave !

Hey Sub you are the boss and definitely I am a fan of yours also. I think you are of the most helpful person in any of the forum that I belong (espresso and tennis also). In spite of you have been very clear with both of the mods, please let me ask you on more question in regards the manual rotation. My model does not have the handle and the stone rest over the upper part of the base of the pizza maker, Can I still make the mod for manual rotation or my only solution is the motor? and my last question, how many languages do you speak man? You also are in the Italians forums I can tell  :-D


Hi Fernando,

Thank you for your kind words.

unfortunately I do not have any ideas for an easy mod.

Vespa72 did this mod: Sistemazione pietra rotta g3 ferrari

I don't speak a lot of languages, I use translate.google for the Italians forums.

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« Reply #142 on: December 04, 2013, 04:47:39 PM »
Thank you again Sub, I really appreciate all your help. I hope one day I will be able to serve you. I promise i will stay out of your hair, for now (just kidding).

And please keep posting more pizzas!

Fernando

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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #143 on: December 07, 2013, 04:15:30 PM »
Here's my latest out of the G3ferrari - too much (wet) mozzarella but quite delicious  :chef:

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« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2013, 12:48:50 PM »
First big bake with my oven last night. Cooked 8 pies. Some pics below.  Was getting sub-90 second cooks when I was watching my heat.  Rotated pies manually using a peel during cooking.  I'm in love with this oven.  Four of the pies are posted below, with undersides shown for two.

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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #145 on: December 08, 2013, 01:23:19 PM »
They look great, I assume you have two heating elements on top?

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« Reply #146 on: December 08, 2013, 10:58:33 PM »
Yes, two top O elements.

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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #147 on: December 09, 2013, 05:30:42 AM »
Great looking Pies, misterschu and Stonecut! We don't need to say a word about Sub's pies, do we?
Anyhow, here's my Pie of the day. Cold ferment for longer periods really helps with the cosmetics (leoparding) of the Pizza - especially with only a single heating element. This was Tre Grazie Flour. 63% Hydration, cold ferment in the fridge for 5 Days. Taste was great, really satisfied with the look as well!
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Re: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven.
« Reply #148 on: December 09, 2013, 08:57:34 AM »
Nice pies guys !

Today I've try to do the motorised rotating stone mod again, and I surrender !
I need a Column Drill to make it right,  I've got a drinker's eye  ::)

The mod like Vespa72 work very well no oscilation from the shaft if you drill the under dome to fit tight.

I've used a old gas hob head, the stone turn well but if you put a spirit level  on it the bubble takes a bit on the side. . . 

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« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2013, 09:55:47 PM »
So in my last cook I was pretty sure that my bottom element was not heating.  I just tested it, and it's definitely not heating.  I think this is great news for new modders, they may be able to make a mod to an oven with just the elements from a single unit, and then decide that they want an element for the bottom.