Author Topic: Neapolitan Pizza and G3 Ferrari (modified) electric oven. (Read 8829 times)

sub · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2013, 11:25:58 AM »

Yes but only the models with a stainless steel dome made in Italy are wired in 220 volts (101/ML), all the other models from China are wired in 110v.

Morgan · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2013, 11:57:25 AM »

Quote from: sub on February 06, 2013, 11:25:58 AM

Yes but only the models with a stainless steel dome made in Italy are wired in 220 volts (101/ML), all the other models from China are wired in 110v.

So there is 2x 110v heaters in these china models which i also have. I would need to get one more heat element of 220-240v or i could just buy on of these china clones and put 2 heaters on bottom and also to top, with this setup you would run 2 ovens in one. If I'm not going to find one element of 220-240v i would have to double or nothing.

Is there anyone who has just changed the bottom heater to the top ? I guess the stone would heat even the heat comes just from the upper elements.

sub · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:40:27 PM »

2 heaters on bottom is too much power, It won't work.

You can try to put a double circular heating element from a domestic oven, but It's a lot of power to handle, you'll need a rotating stone or a power regulator or enlarge the space beetween the stone and the heating element.

Morgan · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2013, 03:46:14 PM »

Full blast it is to much, but if you control it then it would be just right. How many ovens do you own

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sub · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2013, 04:20:00 PM »

the pictures above are from other users, I've only . . .

Morgan · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:41:07 PM »

Big family

thezaman · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:58:21 PM »

are these ovens available anywhere???

sub · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2013, 02:40:53 PM »

There are no longer sold in the US I think, try on ebay

Villaware Pizza Express Napoli
Deni Pizza Bella 2100
Welbilt Pizza Plus Pz120

Subculture · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2013, 12:48:45 PM »

These just popped up on Costco.ca recently:

http://www.costco.ca/Forno-Magnifico-Electric-Pizza-Oven.product.100022230.html

Looks like a re-branded G3. I've ordered one for sh*ts and giggles.

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #29 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:46:46 PM »

Quote from: Subculture on February 12, 2013, 12:48:45 PM

These just popped up on Costco.ca recently:

http://www.costco.ca/Forno-Magnifico-Electric-Pizza-Oven.product.100022230.html

Looks like a re-branded G3. I've ordered one for sh*ts and giggles.

Good luck with it subculture, they can get real hot!

I have a Lil Deni that uses only a single top heating element. Couple day's ago I modded the control switch and while not paying attention(during 10 min. preheat)she got up to 1050 degrees.

I was just goofing around and waited only a couple mins., didn't take a temp. reading an just launched....that pizza was burnt black in about 30 seconds man!

Scored some fresh mozz "pearls" today so I'll give it all another go tonight.
Bob

Subculture · « **Reply #30 on:** February 12, 2013, 06:01:49 PM »

Quote from: Chicago Bob on February 12, 2013, 04:46:46 PM

she got up to 1050 degrees.

Sweet lord! You're going to burn down your kitchen!

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2013, 06:19:28 PM »

Quote from: Subculture on February 12, 2013, 06:01:49 PM

Sweet lord! You're going to burn down your kitchen!

Dude...no pain , no gain.

Believe me, I keep Lil Deni's butt parked right next to the kitchen sink...she jus caught me a 'lil off guard that's all

sub · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:43:54 PM »

You're right Bob !

Tonights bake:

Divella Pizza (W220-240) 65% water, 3% salt, 0.5g fresh yeast per liter
24h in bulk and 24h in balls @ AT Cooking time 60-65 seconds refractory stone 880°F

bfguilford · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:50:41 PM »

Quote from: Subculture on February 12, 2013, 12:48:45 PM

These just popped up on Costco.ca recently:

http://www.costco.ca/Forno-Magnifico-Electric-Pizza-Oven.product.100022230.html

Looks like a re-branded G3. I've ordered one for sh*ts and giggles.

Sounds tempting. Let us know how it performs. I particularly like this part of the description: Dual elements and dome design ensure optional cooking of toppings and crust (underline is mine). I'm guessing most people will opt in for that.

Barry

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:54:44 PM »

"Momma's got a squeeze box"...remember that song? ...accordion pizza, man...saweet!!

Very interesting...I am about to fire up the same dough as yours on the Deni(mine is 50/50 caputo an AP though)..mind if I post up pics here sub?
Bob

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2013, 08:14:48 PM »

Quote from: sub on February 12, 2013, 07:43:54 PM

You're right Bob !

Tonights bake:

Divella Pizza (W220-240) 65% water, 3% salt, 0.5g fresh yeast per liter
24h in bulk and 24h in balls @ AT Cooking time 60-65 seconds refractory stone 880°F

sub,
My rig has top heat only but I can turn it on and off at will...given that I have a similar dough as yours tonight what is your recommendation?
Launch at 880 stone temp and immediately turn top heater on full blast?

Thanks,
Bob

sub · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2013, 09:20:37 AM »

I don't mind

With only one heating element the optimal temperature is +/- 720°F beyond that, the bottom burn easily as you may have noticed

I start by putting a flattened aluminum pie on the refractory stone (prevent overheating) put the thermostat on 3 and then preheat 15min, then I remove the aluminum and I quickly put the pie in.
A good wooden pizza shovel is a Must have, you want to keep the hot air inside.

If you have the Deni with the two handles on the refractory stone, remove one like this to turn the pie without opening the oven at half baking.


A video

of my oven with only one heating element, I was monitoring the air temperature inside the dome (in Celsius)

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2013, 02:31:53 PM »

Nice video sub.

Unfortunately I have the no handles model buy I'm able to get in an out of there for a fast turn.
Good info/tip on the 720 degree sweet zone for this oven. Once I start getting up around 800 the element won't glow cherry red...it is still on(my mod)but just a weaker orange color and can't keep up with the bottom bake.
I'd like to add a second element...can you possibly provide me a link to where I could buy one. I accidently erased the PM's you sent me a while ago

and can't remember if you had mentioned how I can get another element. Thanks sub!
Bob

sub · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2013, 03:24:33 PM »

the mod of the thermostat is not enough, you need to put the aluminum pie pan in the dome and the deflector (dia 17cm x 3.7cm ) that's called the M1 stage mod.

After that, your heating element will be hotter

For a spare element, I don't know where to buy it in the US, try to get another oven on flebay for spare parts, or maybe ask the Chinese factory who built the Delizia model.

Chicago Bob · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2013, 03:44:51 PM »

Yes, was planning to do the deflector and reflector when I install second heating element. You say those mods will greatly help out what I already have now though? Was thinking of trying to locate a small ss bowl to install inverted for my deflector...how deep is yours, sub...maybe inch, inch an a half? Thanks!