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Re: Best stone for grill???
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2012, 11:43:33 AM »
From what I can tell, the largest round-ish stone they have is a 21" 12 sided shelf, which, imo, is probably worse than the 21" round axner shelf, because of the gaps from the 12 sides.

I did notice that all these places have 12 x 24 stones.  If you wanted to go the Kenji route and put the stone on the top of the insert, you could put two 12 x 24 stones together.

http://www.axner.com/cordierite-shelf-12x24x1rect.aspx

It would, again, be too high, imo, but it would be pretty simple to do, avoid aluminum, create no gaps and give you a Kenji pie- you could do a lot worse than a Kenji pie.

No matter how you shake it out, Axner's 21" round stone in the KettlePizza insert is going to be complicated.  There's not going to be any supports in place above the door for the stone to sit on, so you'll most likely need to drill holes in the insert. If you want something that's just ready to go, without any DIY fuss, I think two 12 x 24 shelves is the way to go.


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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2012, 12:45:58 PM »
DIY fuss??!!   ???  But thats the fun part!
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2012, 06:45:23 PM »
Was thinking about 5 holes with 'L' brackets on the inside('L' upside down) would do the trick fine. They are going to get back to me on other stone sizes that may not be listed on their site.
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2012, 07:26:36 PM »
22.5 Weber Performer with that Kettle Pizza insert using lump and wood chunks. With a couple small adaptations I think this thing can fly. A good option for vs 4 grand for a WFO. May still get one of those too sometime but was going to get the charcoal grill anyway so figured what the hell, give it a try.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 07:30:06 PM »
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Re: Best stone for grill???
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2012, 09:26:07 PM »
Here's a link to the 1st run on the new unit. Very happy with it so far. Making a dough from the Occident ER flour tonite for firing probably Sat nite. Got the new stones now too, all cured and ready to go. .75" thick vs .625" thick. http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,19973.msg195907.html#msg195907

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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2012, 11:39:26 AM »
Just read on an earlier post here that someone is worried about melting aluminum when it's shielding a pizza stone. That's a joke, right? Is anyone really cooking pizza at over 1200 F?   http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2012, 11:48:00 AM »
Just read on an earlier post here that someone is worried about melting aluminum when it's shielding a pizza stone. That's a joke, right? Is anyone really cooking pizza at over 1200 F?   http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

Not a joke at all.

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,11126.msg101366.html#msg101366

Aluminum should be fine for the typical gas grill, but when you get into the kind of burners the members here like to to put into their little black eggs, aluminum can and does melt. Both charcoal and wood have been known to melt aluminum also. Jackitup is planning on working with wood.  Once wood temps enter the picture, aluminum has got to go.

Lastly, while 1000-1100 domes are pretty much the norm for Neapolitan pizza, you will find domes occasionally hitting 1200, so there are people baking at that temp.

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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2012, 11:49:16 AM »
Actually, we're not kidding, and it is a valid concern.  One of the members here put in an aluminum piece as a deflector in his LBE.  The flame hits that directly.  It melted and ran out the bottom of the LBE, congealing into nuggets on the patio.  He was really lucky to not get it on his foot, or step on it while it was hot.

So keeping aluminum out of direct flame is kind of a no-brainer.
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Re: Best stone for grill???
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2012, 01:19:59 PM »
Actually, we're not kidding, and it is a valid concern.  One of the members here put in an aluminum piece as a deflector in his LBE.  The flame hits that directly.  It melted and ran out the bottom of the LBE, congealing into nuggets on the patio.  He was really lucky to not get it on his foot, or step on it while it was hot.

So keeping aluminum out of direct flame is kind of a no-brainer.


I had zero problems with the aluminum pan under the Fibrament grill stone - in fact, it was a critical element as it reflected a bunch of heat away from the stone - otherwise it would have been way too hot relative to the air temp above (maintained with insulation as seen here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,9614.0.html. The pan was a couple inches above the burner and came nowhere near the melting point (1221F). With the stone on top (or without for that matter), you are bleeding off a ton of heat into the air above. It's is apples and oranges compared to having a piece of naked aluminum directly in the flame of a high BTU burner.

pizzaneer - I love your new picture - get's my vote for best avatar.

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Re: Best stone for grill???
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2012, 03:58:14 PM »
Thanks for the education! Looks like I need to travel a bit to find and experience a "good" pizza. Also, thanks for the Fibrament reassurance - just bought one with the 16" pan.

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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2012, 08:15:46 PM »
pizzaneer - I love your new picture - get's my vote for best avatar.

Thanks Craig -  next one will be animated, waiting for inspiration.
I'd rather eat one good meal a day than 3 squares of garbage.