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Offline Jet_deck

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I ordered a WFO
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:54:36 PM »
I have a custom 42" Pompeii with a low-dome being built.  Can anybody guess who is building it?
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2012, 02:03:22 PM »
I have a custom 42" Pompeii with a low-dome being built.  Can anybody guess who is building it?

I can.  ;D
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2012, 02:20:45 PM »
Jeff?

Kit....Mr. Gene?   :o
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2012, 02:36:25 PM »
Shuboyje aka Jeff?  very cool.  congrats Gene.

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 03:01:50 PM »
No, not a kit.  Not Jeff.  He is a forum member though.  Thanks Chau.
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2012, 03:18:05 PM »
Is it Tom?

It's someone relatively local to you, right?

Btw, 16" is 'low dome?'  :) Craig, I've been meaning to ask, what's your dome height?
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2012, 03:24:33 PM »
Well, it is low dome compared to a standard Tuscan 42" at 20". 

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 03:24:42 PM »
Craig, I've been meaning to ask, what's your dome height?

Door is 17.5" x 9"
Sidewall (soldier course) is 9"
Dome center height is ~15.25"
Oven diameter is 47"
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2012, 03:49:45 PM »
Well, it is low dome compared to a standard Tuscan 42" at 20". 
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2012, 10:50:37 PM »
I am Just thrilled you are getting an oven !! others comment on what should be this / could be that / what  works best... But you will "have"   a great oven no matter who build  it. and  I can only asume, soon be enjoying some pretty  great NP Pies Oh  have you thought about your fermetation time yet ?  :-D
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 04:58:44 AM »
I'm putting my money on Craig being the mystery helper.  He can do everything else, why not build ovens too?   ;D
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 07:45:48 AM »
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 09:46:36 AM »
I'm putting my money on Craig being the mystery helper.  He can do everything else, why not build ovens too?   ;D

Nope. Not me, but I know the answer.  ;D
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2012, 09:50:40 AM »
I'm putting my money on Craig being the mystery helper.  He can do everything else, why not build ovens too?   ;D

I do appreciate the vote of confidence by the way.
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2012, 10:47:06 AM »
You're too modest Craig.....I'm sure a phone call or two will be put out to you before all is said an done.

I'm sticking with Tom.....say, Peter lives in Texas also ,correct?  :o  Hmmmm......
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2012, 12:22:23 PM »
I'm sticking with Tom.....say, Peter lives in Texas also ,correct?  :o  Hmmmm......

Bob,

You will notice that just about the only oven I ever talk about on the forum in any detail is my 20+-year old Whirlpool electric oven. Since my motto is "First, do no harm", and since I try to play to my strengths rather than to my weaknesses, there is a good reason why I don't post about ovens. I can put what I know about ovens in a thimble. Gene (Jet_deck) is far too knowledgeable and far too wise to entrust me with anything that has to do with his new oven. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2012, 12:31:50 PM »
Yeah.....o.k.  :'(   Still, would have been a great coup though. I was already imagining the fine engraved plaque adorning that magnificent oven..... :P
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2012, 03:32:59 PM »
Peter, I wouldn't sell yourself so short.  If, while performing your moderator duties, you've read a fraction of all the oven related posts in this forum, you should have more oven knowledge than most.

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2012, 06:06:50 PM »
Peter, I wouldn't sell yourself so short.  If, while performing your moderator duties, you've read a fraction of all the oven related posts in this forum, you should have more oven knowledge than most.

scott123,

As a Moderator, I do try to look at every post. My first duty is to be sure that posts are in the right place in the forum's indexing system. But I do not read every post for complete comprehension. Things are fairly quiet now, most likely because of summer, but there are days where there can be close to 250 posts. So, I have to be selective about which posts I read carefully to really understand what is being said, and hoping that the posters really know what they are talking about and aren't passing on misinformation.

Over the past few years, there has been an explosion of posts on the forum relating to ovens. All kinds of ovens. From WFOs (because of the dynamic growth in the Neapolitan pizza style), to commercial ovens, to mobile ovens, to LBEs, MBEs, to BGEs, to 2Stone units, to grills, to modded home ovens, to countertop ovens, and, of course, the use of soapstone and steel plates in lieu of the more traditional pizza stones for standard home ovens. When I first joined the forum in 2004, the predominant ovens were standard unmodified home ovens. Over the past few years, I am sure that I have learned something about all kinds of ovens as the volume of posts on ovens increased, and I have paid closer attention to the posts involving standard home ovens (including a lot of your posts), but there are members who are far more knowledgeable than I about ovens--in many cases they are professionals in the field with a lot of experience--and can do a far better job counselling others than I can do. As Dirty Harry once put it in Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations."  :-D

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2012, 09:21:28 PM »
Gene- you should have told Me Stefano Ferrara was coming to Texas!! I  would have made a special trip !!
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2012, 07:59:51 AM »
Gene,

I am anxious to see your WFO!  ;D  I am guessing Tom is helping.

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 02:30:35 PM »
Yes, Tom is doing all the work.  He is building it on a concrete base.  When I get it, I will build a stand (steel) for it.  Get this-- when I asked how long it would take, he said a couple of days. Then a week to dry and fire.  Too cool.
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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2012, 03:11:58 PM »
Should have all the parts delivered tomorrow.

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2012, 03:31:51 PM »
Get this-- when I asked how long it would take, he said a couple of days. Then a week to dry and fire.

How is this possible?  You're putting perlcrete under the hearth, correct?  Doesn't perlcrete take at least 7 days to cure properly? And what about letting it dry? Here they talk about a few weeks for letting the perlcrete sub-hearth cure and dry before proceeding with the rest of the oven:

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f14/pouring-hearth-14905.html#post113466

Even if you're insulating the hearth with board, you're still talking about the same few week wait for the perlcrete insulating the dome, and that's not even counting the drying time for the rest of the oven.

As far as drying goes, I've never come across anyone who felt like they dried their oven too slow, but there's countless number of people who rushed it and have regrets.  If I was drying an oven that I spent this much time and money on, I'd let it air dry for a month minimum, then put a hair dryer in it, on a timer, for a couple days, and gradually move up to an actual fire over the course of another month.  Overkill? Probably, but if I'm going to be using this oven for at least 15 years, what's 2 month's drying time to be 150% certain that I don't damage it at the start?

You cannot dry out an oven over too long a period, imo.

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Re: I ordered a WFO
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 03:45:18 PM »
2 days to build the dome.  Perlcrete is ready the next day.  So it goes like this:

Day 1 pour the slab
Day 2 pour the perlcrete
Day 3 lay the hearth and begin the dome
Day 4 finish dome begin drying.
Day 5 more drying apply perlcrete to dome
Day 6 more drying
Day 7 more drying
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