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Offline Don K

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Looking for new cookware...
« on: July 24, 2012, 01:23:01 PM »
We are in the market for new cookware (pots and pans), and since there seems to be many around here that cook a lot more than just pizza, we are seeking some advice.

Our current cookware consists of a hodgepodge of stuff, most of which my wife and I have had since before we were married.

So what's the best material? Any good brands? Any bad experiences?

One thing that we don't like are these Teflon coated non-stick surfaces that eventually come off and end up in your food.

We realize that good cookware can be expensive, but unfortunately cost is an issue. We don't expect commercial quality, but don't want junk either. Something in the middle, I guess, maybe leaning a little toward the good stuff. Anybody know of a good deal out there?

We have a ceramic glass radiant heat cooktop.
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 01:45:02 PM »
Well,  I purchased a set of Emerilware Stainless steel,  and am more than satisfied with its performance.  Although my mother bought a new set for herself and she swears that mine are heavier and thicker than her new ones are.   Stainless is the only way to fly.  You'd think food would stick to em,  but they are suprisingly non-stick,  the one thing you have to do is forget that you have a "high" setting on your burners. 

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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 01:45:37 PM »

Klink...It is a matter of cost, but I would suggest you build what you need over a period of time...I would not buy a set, but buy what you need for what you do...All Clad cannot be beat...In the end, you need an 8"fry, 12" fry, 8" nonstick, large saute, pasta pot, le creuset pot(s), lodge cast iron fry pan, stock pot, saucepan(s) and possibly a grill/griddle for your stovetop...I believe that stainless is best (for fond), one nonstick for eggs, on cast iron for heat retention, one enameled cast iron, but it is really up to what you cook...If cost is an issue, build your collection one pan at a time...Also, I would look at changing to a good gas stove top; the ability to cook is greatly enhance...I used to get one pan for Christmas, and after 20 years, I now have a great collection of pots and pans that really add to the quality of cooking I am able to do...

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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 01:47:10 PM »
Stainless steel and vintage cast iron, you bet, CK!!!   :)

Stay away from anything aluminum especially if you cook with fluoridated tap water...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_fluoride

http://www.actionpa.org/fluoride/aluminum.html   ;D
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 01:57:14 PM »
Non-stick issue: Most folks that are really into cooking (but not necessarily gourmet or professional) claim that everyone needs at least 1 non-stick fry pan for cooking eggs or dishes with eggs in them. BUT they almost uniformly caution against using non-stick for everything else, as you just cannot get the same browning performance as you can with regular pans. Then there is the potential peeling issue. Lastly, non-stick pans are not supposed to be placed under the broiler - they cannot tolerate the higher heat. This is a big disadvantage, since so many cooking techniques call for starting something on the stove and finishing it under the broiler. I do this all the time, especially for seafood and fillet mignon.

-Set versus individual pieces issue: While I completely agree that there may not be one entire set that will do everything well, I do believe that one can't go wrong with buying a basic set of something that you like and then supplementing that with other pieces from the same or entirely different lines down the road. It is a cost effective way to shop for cookware, IMHO. I started out with a 10-piece set of All Clad stainless and since then, have added about 12 more pieces of AC, plus 12 pieces of Le Creuset enameled cast iron (another terrific product).

-Does appearance matter? Will the pots be on display? If so, you might want to consider something in a stainless steel finish, like All Clad. I have had my set of AC stainless (Al core for conductivity; SS for appearance and ease of cleaning) for 6 years now and they still look and perform as if they had never been used. The stay cool handles are nice, plus they go in the dishwasher. As to the glass lids issue, I love the way they look but chose not to get any, as our floors are tile and I worried about breakage. I suppose replacements are available, but what about 20 years from now?

Are you using gas or electric? If electric, is it a coil top or glass/smoothtop? If the latter, then there are other considerations as well. (You cannot use anthing that has copper on the OUTSIDE of the bottom; cannot use glass cookware, such as Visions by Corning; must use only pots that are metal, smooth and 100% flat on the bottom, which eliminates Circulon...)
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 02:17:35 PM »
Thanks for the replies so far!

Also, I would look at changing to a good gas stove top; the ability to cook is greatly enhance...
I knew that this was going to come up, but the debate is over for us. I agree with you, I have always loved gas. My wife is a great cook but she learned to cook on electric stoves and that's what she is used to. We discussed this subject at length and in the end we went with the electric. FWIW, it was a lot easier for me to install the electric cooktop in our kitchen island. It would have been very difficult to run a gas line to the island but the wiring was easy because I am an electrician.
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 02:30:12 PM »
All Clad cannot be beat...In the end, you need an 8"fry, 12" fry, 8" nonstick, large saute, pasta pot, le creuset pot(s), lodge cast iron fry pan, stock pot, saucepan(s) and possibly a grill/griddle for your stovetop...I believe that stainless is best (for fond), one nonstick for eggs, on cast iron for heat retention, one enameled cast iron

+1, this is pretty much my exact collection
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 04:16:07 PM »
A variety of vintage well-kept cast iron, ranging from fry pans to griddles to dutch ovens.  I use them a lot in my LBE, as well as on the stovetop (identical to yours), and they perform flawlessly.

Appearance-wise, you can't beat the perfect gloss black of a well-seasoned cast iron pan, IMO.  It just screams "Someone lives here who can cook!"
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 04:33:25 PM »

Appearance-wise, you can't beat the perfect gloss black of a well-seasoned cast iron pan, IMO.  It just screams "Someone lives here who can cook!"
Right on Jeffro....Granny uses 'em all the time an she lives in Beverly Hills!!    :chef:  b  :-D
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 05:10:04 PM »
I have found some excellent pans at a local restaurant supply store that sells retail. My best fry pan is a Carlisle brand. Stainless inside and aluminum exterior. It won't be nice and shiny but will really do the job. There's other brands and a good selection all in one store. I would not buy a fry pan that can't take being placed in an oven. My pan cames with a handle that slides off.
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 06:06:00 PM »
I have All-Clad stainless, and I love it. No complaints at all.

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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 06:16:15 PM »
I have one well-seasoned cast iron skillet that was passed down from my grandmother. Cast iron is all that she would use. I think that my sister got the rest of her cast iron.

I was just looking at Al-Clad at some places online. I would definitely have to buy it piece-by-piece very gradually...that is unless I take out a second mortgage!  :o Was I just looking on expensive websites or is a little 1-quart saucepan supposed to cost $100? A 4-quart saute pan for $200?
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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 06:22:31 PM »
Don,

By the time you are done paying for all the All Clad cookware, you will be unclad :-D.

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 06:23:13 PM »
They generally are a 'lil pricey Don. That's why a well chosen "starter set" can get you in the game ....   http://www.zappos.com/all-clad-stainless-steel-9-piece-cookware-set-stainless-steel
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 06:25:53 PM »
Don,

By the time you are done paying for all the All Clad cookware, you will be unclad :-D.

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Re: Looking for new cookware...
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 06:30:14 PM »
I was just looking at Al-Clad at some places online. I would definitely have to buy it piece-by-piece very gradually...that is unless I take out a second mortgage!  :o Was I just looking on expensive websites or is a little 1-quart saucepan supposed to cost $100? A 4-quart saute pan for $200?

I've been buying them one pot and pan at a time for the past 20 years. I worked for Williams Sonoma for a few months just out of college while waiting to start another job. The 40% employee discount got me started. I've picked up everything else on sale or - even better - at a huge discount at places like Marshall's or T.J. Max.

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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 06:34:06 PM »
And need to open up a dinner to recoup!!  :chef:
...or maybe a diner.  :P

I have no problem spending some money on some quality stuff but if it gets too expensive it may cut into my planned WFO budget.  :(
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 06:38:03 PM »
...or maybe a diner.  :P

I have no problem spending some money on some quality stuff but if it gets too expensive it may cut into my planned WFO budget.  :(

Which is CLEARLY more important.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 06:39:42 PM »
CLEARLY!
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 06:40:29 PM »
...or maybe a diner.  :P

I have no problem spending some money on some quality stuff but if it gets too expensive it may cut into my planned WFO budget.  :(
'cmon....now you know your current kit ain't all THAT bad.... ;)
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