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Offline nicanta

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Pizza Ovens
« on: August 01, 2012, 06:30:51 AM »
Does anyone have any idea what ovens they are using for 800 Degrees and Pizzarev, i would like to branch out into this type of 2 minute pizza dining experience as i truly beleive it will take over the pizza fast food market in the next copule of years.

I have sourced the firdeck oven options from Woodstone but they are very expensive and maybe the gas operated oven would be more
connvienient.

800 - 900 degrees in the oven is not something difficult but obviously they dont even tend to turn the pies once in the oven, thus i guess limiting the experience needed for a good pizza chef and quick turnover of pies.

The ovens i guess would be the most important part of this process, hence i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  any ideas???


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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 08:03:27 AM »
From pictures I've viewed on a few websites featuring this concept, the stores are definitely using gas fired ovens. I have no idea of the brand names.
Don
http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2011/04/01/chipotle-style-pizzeria-debuts-in-fullerton/36991/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pizza-persona-chicago
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« Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 08:23:07 AM by buceriasdon »

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 08:31:36 AM »
Pizzarev's site clearly shows them using a Woodstone Firedeck oven. 
According to Woodstone, it is made especially for pizza.  There are no other options in this model line but gas.
http://www.woodstone-corp.com/products_ovens_fd.htm

Too expensive?

I seriously don't know what you're asking for in this series of posts.  Do you want a cheap knock-off using the same idea as the Firedeck?  A conveyer oven?  Some gadget so simple a monkey could use it that dumps cheese? 

You will get what you pay for.  If you don't want to pay someone who has experience and skills, then you're stuck with making it so easy anyone could do it.  That usually means mediocre product.  If that's the case, I'm sure there are "packages" that the equipment manufacturers offer, including everything needed to get off the ground & training.  You know, contract for frozen dough balls, conveyer oven, prep table, fridge, etc.
I'd rather eat one good meal a day than 3 squares of garbage.

buceriasdon

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 08:44:42 AM »
Richard, Being located in the U.K. you might look at some Italian gas fired ovens.
Don

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 09:12:15 AM »
They are both using Wood Stones.

Pizzarev's site clearly shows them using a Woodstone Firedeck oven. 
According to Woodstone, it is made especially for pizza.  There are no other options in this model line but gas.
http://www.woodstone-corp.com/products_ovens_fd.htm

Too expensive?

I seriously don't know what you're asking for in this series of posts.  Do you want a cheap knock-off using the same idea as the Firedeck?  A conveyer oven?  Some gadget so simple a monkey could use it that dumps cheese? 

You will get what you pay for.  If you don't want to pay someone who has experience and skills, then you're stuck with making it so easy anyone could do it.  That usually means mediocre product.  If that's the case, I'm sure there are "packages" that the equipment manufacturers offer, including everything needed to get off the ground & training.  You know, contract for frozen dough balls, conveyer oven, prep table, fridge, etc.


When he said they are expensive he is right. I don't think you know how much these ovens really cost. They can get upward to $40k+ and their "cheapest" models are still more expensive than other companies top models. I don't see any reason for you to get so defensive about something like this and talk down to him in a condescending manner.

buceriasdon

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 09:31:33 AM »
Brian, I believe the idea behind such concept pizzerias is anyone can do it. It's fast food pizza with low paid inexperienced staff regardless of them calling it artisan pizza.
Don

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 10:02:17 AM »
You are right, I retract my tone, if not the content.  I'm sorry, Richard. 

I'm just a stickler for trying to make the best product possible.  Sometimes that runs into financial reality with ugly results, as my wife would be the first to tell anyone.
I'd rather eat one good meal a day than 3 squares of garbage.

buceriasdon

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 11:33:34 AM »
I would also like to post a link to one such concept pizzaria on yelp. Very few negative reviews.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pieology-pizzeria-fullerton

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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 07:05:11 PM »
Like it or not all put aside, if your goals are what you laid out I would be looking for a gas fired rotating hearth oven.

Here is an example from MAM:
http://www.mamforni.it/html_gb_2010/prodotti_fornorotantegas_gb.htm

I'd bet it is 1/4 the price of a woodstone.
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Re: Pizza Ovens
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 08:54:02 PM »
I'd bet it is 1/4 the price of a woodstone.
Everything is quarter the price of a WS :-D.