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Offline Antomike

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Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« on: November 07, 2014, 10:44:49 AM »
Hey everyone,

Made some sourdough pizza dough last week using my sourdough starter.

I had fed the starter for about 3 days and was pretty active and bubbling.

Made my dough as per usual except this time did not do a bulk fermentation.

Balled the dough right away and left the containers on the counter.

The dough never rose, even after 24 hours. (12 hours counter and 12 in the fridge).

What a big disappointment not able to have pizza for dinner that night!

FYI, never try to make pizza with unleavened dough!

Any ideas??

Thanks!


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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 10:50:45 AM »
It's possible your starter was not really fully activated after only three days.  What was the source of your starter? Which one? Did you happen to have taken any pictures of your starters state at the time of using it that you can share/post?
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 10:58:44 AM »
Ditto on what Don said and did you do the "float test"?  Do you know the hydration of your starter?
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 11:57:31 AM »
Also, what was the temperature of the room/dough.

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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 12:09:36 PM »
It's possible your starter was not really fully activated after only three days.  What was the source of your starter? Which one? Did you happen to have taken any pictures of your starters state at the time of using it that you can share/post?
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The starter is a homemade one from a friend.
Sorry no pictures.
Thanks!

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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 12:11:04 PM »
Ditto on what Don said and did you do the "float test"?  Do you know the hydration of your starter?
Did not do float test, should of have.

No do not know hydration of starter, eyeballed it. Was like a thick pancake batter.
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 12:11:54 PM »
Also, what was the temperature of the room/dough.

Room temperature about 71 F.

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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 12:37:21 PM »
The starter is a homemade one from a friend.
Sorry no pictures.
Thanks!
Would you say it looked this active?
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 12:40:00 PM »
The starter is a homemade one from a friend.
Sorry no pictures.
Thanks!
Or, like this?
(Photo credit:Mbrulato)
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 02:08:00 PM »
Or, like this?
(Photo credit:Mbrulato)
It looked more like this one and I believe the bubbles were not as big.
So maybe that was my problem?
I don't know by not doing a bulk fermentation affected the process.
Maybe not enough room to multiply..


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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2014, 02:12:44 PM »
How recently did you activate your starter?
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 02:14:13 PM »
How recently did you activate your starter?
Last week-end.

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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 02:25:09 PM »
It may not be mature enough to leaven yet.  I made that mistake the first time I started one from scratch and thought I would try to leaven a homemade panettone with it.  Big mistake.

Your starter should rise about 2 or 3 inches within 2 hours of feeding it.  It should look more like Don's picture.  If it doesn't, give it a couple more feedings before you try again.  There are plenty members here who produce great results with their homegrown starters.  All you need is patience.....yeah....just a little patience as I bob my head back and forth like Axle Rose  ;D

Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2014, 02:29:54 PM »
It may not be mature enough to leaven yet.  I made that mistake the first time I started one from scratch and thought I would try to leaven a homemade panettone with it.  Big mistake.

Your starter should rise about 2 or 3 inches within 2 hours of feeding it.  It should look more like Don's picture.  If it doesn't, give it a couple more feedings before you try again.  There are plenty members here who produce great results with their homegrown starters.  All you need is patience.....yeah....just a little patience as I bob my head back and forth like Axle Rose  ;D

Let us know how it goes.

Will try to feed it longer next time and try that "patience" thing, not easy when you are craving pizza and you want it right away!
Thanks!

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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2014, 02:47:42 PM »
Haha.  I know the feeling.  There's no shame in using commercial yeast in the meantime or even buying pizza dough from the supermarket as long as you let it get to RT before you bake  ;)
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Re: Help, pizza dough with sourdough starter did not rise
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014, 03:23:06 PM »
just a little patience as I bob my head back and forth like Axle Rose  ;D


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