The VP was the first pizza I tried using a dough formula from this site and it worked just as he said it would. Yeah, it was about 3 hours, it took the second knockdown to get the dough into the corners of the pan. The next time I do this I should make two dough balls so I can experiment a bit. I was very impressed by your pizza oven setup, your pizzas look beautiful. I gotta go make some dough, thanks for your help.