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« Reply #2020 on: July 25, 2013, 06:30:39 PM »
Norma gave me two leftover dough balls on Tuesday and I just now baked them up. Plain cheese and pepperoni. Thanks Norma! ;D


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« Reply #2021 on: July 25, 2013, 07:35:05 PM »
Norma gave me two leftover dough balls on Tuesday and I just now baked them up. Plain cheese and pepperoni. Thanks Norma! ;D

Steve,

Those look very good.  Your crumb shot sure looks light and airy.    ;D

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« Reply #2022 on: August 01, 2013, 08:14:36 AM »
I don't know what happened to the MFB shortening I had at market, but on Monday it was nowhere to be found and I do know it was there the previous week.  I decided to use regular vegetable oil to grease the steel pans.  There was a fairly huge difference in how brown the sides were after the bake from the vegetable oil.  The sides were much lighter in all of the Detroit style pizzas when the vegetable oil was used instead of the MFB shortening.  The bottom crust was crisper though when using the vegetable oil.

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« Reply #2023 on: August 07, 2013, 11:33:51 PM »
This post is just to say that I noticed on Monday when mixing all of my doughs batches, including the Detroit style, they were all drier than they usually are.  It was a lot cooler and the humidity was very low.  I still went ahead and used cold water in all the dough batches.  I noticed all of my dough balls wanted to crust over before they were oiled too.

These are a photos of the one pizza and crumb shots.  I found my MFB hiding under a large stainless steel bowl that was turned upside down.

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« Reply #2024 on: August 07, 2013, 11:42:30 PM »
Norma gave me two leftover dough balls on Tuesday and I just now baked them up. Plain cheese and pepperoni. Thanks Norma! ;D

How do you get that awesome brown on the edge like that???
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« Reply #2025 on: August 08, 2013, 10:09:19 AM »
How do you get that awesome brown on the edge like that???

Not really sure. Baked on the center rack @ 500 for about 10 minutes, no stone. I put foil over the pans for the last few minutes to keep the cheese from over browning. Also, I don't remember for sure but this might have been WM mozz as opposed to white cheddar.

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« Reply #2026 on: August 08, 2013, 01:22:35 PM »
Damn Sam!  :drool:
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« Reply #2027 on: August 08, 2013, 05:21:34 PM »
I don't recall where I found this photo, but I think if I recall right the doughs on top of the steel pans were Detroit style doughs.  I found it interesting how the doughs were stretched on top of the steel pans.  I had the photo on my computer for a little while and just came across it today.

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« Reply #2028 on: August 08, 2013, 11:41:55 PM »
I don't recall where I found this photo, but I think if I recall right the doughs on top of the steel pans were Detroit style doughs.  I found it interesting how the doughs were stretched on top of the steel pans.  I had the photo on my computer for a little while and just came across it today.

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Norma,

That picture is great! Don't those trays seem too shallow for DS pies? Maybe we can use that Dunkin Cup and the bottle of OxyContin  on its side next to it as a clue!!! :D

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« Reply #2029 on: August 09, 2013, 08:35:58 AM »
Norma,

That picture is great! Don't those trays seem too shallow for DS pies? Maybe we can use that Dunkin Cup and the bottle of OxyContin  on its side next to it as a clue!!! :D

John K

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I can't tell if it was from the angle that photo was shot from made the pans seem shallower or not.  I enlarged the photo the best I could and couldn't see that was a Dunkin Cup and a bottle of OxyCotin though.  How did you see that?  :o  I see the pill bottle and Styrofoam cup, but I sure can't read what is on them.  I guess it is my eyes that need corrected.  :-D  I have been trying to look on facebook to see where that photo came from.   That photo was either on facebook or on Google images for Detroit style pizzas if I recall right.

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« Reply #2030 on: August 09, 2013, 10:25:09 AM »
John,

I can't tell if it was from the angle that photo was shot from made the pans seem shallower or not.  I enlarged the photo the best I could and couldn't see that was a Dunkin Cup and a bottle of OxyCotin though.  How did you see that?  :o  I see the pill bottle and Styrofoam cup, but I sure can't read what is on them.  I guess it is my eyes that need corrected.  :-D  I have been trying to look on facebook to see where that photo came from.   That photo was either on facebook or on Google images for Detroit style pizzas if I recall right.

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Norma,

There are two reasons I knew what the two items were:

1. I grew up in MA. Home of Dunkin Donuts. I've been seeing that logo (pink and orange) on Styrofoam cups since I was in kindergarten.

2. I'm a pain management doctor. Being the realist that I am, I can't imagine that the bottle in the picture is anything other than some sort of controlled substance!!! :-D I mean, what else is gonna be up there on the shelf at work, Viagra??? :-D :-D

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« Reply #2031 on: August 09, 2013, 10:38:53 AM »
Norma,

There are two reasons I knew what the two items were:

1. I grew up in MA. Home of Dunkin Donuts. I've been seeing that logo (pink and orange) on Styrofoam cups since I was in kindergarten.

2. I'm a pain management doctor. Being the realist that I am, I can't imagine that the bottle in the picture is anything other than some sort of controlled substance!!! :-D I mean, what else is gonna be up there on the shelf at work, Viagra??? :-D :-D

John K

John,

Thank you for telling me the two reasons how you knew what the two items were.  I understand now since you grew up in MA. home of the Dunkin Donuts how you knew that logo with pink and orange was a Dunkin Donuts Styrofoam cup.  :angel:

Lol, after you being a pain management doctor and being a realist and then knowing that bottle must have contained some kind of controlled substance.  You never know if someone might need Viagra though.   :-D

I only keep Advil at my pizza stand in case my shoulders, or elbows get tired.  :angel:

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« Reply #2032 on: August 09, 2013, 10:51:13 AM »
I only keep Advil at my pizza stand in case my shoulders, or elbows get tired.  :angel:

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Norma,

I think I have "Advil Deficiency Syndrome"... If I don't have 6-8 per day I get very grouchy due to generalized aches and pains and I become much more of a curmudgeon than usual! :-D

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EDIT: When I said 6-8 I mean Advil, not Oxycontin.
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« Reply #2033 on: August 09, 2013, 11:04:04 AM »
Norma,

I think I have "Advil Deficiency Syndrome"... If I don't have 6-8 per day I get very grouchy due to generalized aches and pains and I become much more of a curmudgeon than usual! :-D

John

EDIT: When I said 6-8 I mean Advil, not Oxycontin.

John,

Lol, about the Advil Deficiency Syndrome.  I never even heard of that.  :o I guess doctors know a lot more than us laypeople.  My doctor gave me higher powered Ibuprofen for when I pulled something in my shoulder, but Advil one time a day can work wonders for me.  I still have the bone sticking out in the neck area.  Do I need to consult with you on the bone sticking out of the neck problem?   :-D Just kidding.

I couldn't ever imagine you as a bad-tempered person.  You are too nice for that.  :angel:

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« Reply #2034 on: August 21, 2013, 07:24:31 PM »
These photos are just to show the process of making a Detroit style pizza.

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« Reply #2035 on: September 04, 2013, 10:10:58 PM »
Buddy's pizza was ranked number 4 in ďThe 39 Essential Pizzas Across the CountryĒ in Eater.

Via 313 did well too and so did De Lorenzo's/Robbinsville.  http://eater.com/archives/2013/09/04/38-essential-pizzas-across-the-country.php 

This is what my Detroit style dough looks like when it is finished mixing.  I took other photos of how the dough looks when it is first balled in the steel pan and what it looks like the next day, but I think I posted those kind of photos before.

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« Reply #2036 on: September 07, 2013, 11:52:14 AM »
I made a mistake when I posted that Buddy's Pizza was ranked number 4 in the U.S.  Adam Kuban told me on facebook the list was in alphabetical order so really the pizzerias weren't ranked by the number given.

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« Reply #2037 on: September 07, 2013, 11:58:47 AM »
Oh, the wonders of yeast in pizza dough.  8)  I found a dough ball in a steel pan in my deli case yesterday when I was cleaning at market.  I don't know how I forgot about that dough ball, but I thought I would bring it home to see if it still might be able to be made into a pizza.  I put it into the fridge at home until this morning.  The dough ball had a big bubble at the one end of the steel pan.  I pressed the dough in the steel pan and set it outside for an hour.  I saw the dough still did rise.  I decided try and make it into a dessert pizza.

I always have lots of fresh fruit at home, so the fruits were no problem.  I used fresh peaches and blueberries.  I also zested part of an orange to go into the strudel.  The strudel was made with AP flour, sugar, cinnamon, butter and the zests of the orange.  I put the peaches and blueberries in key lime juice and added cornstarch.  I wasn't sure if I wanted to add cheese or not, but saw the Mexican cheese in the fridge and used that.  I didn't add a lot of the grated Mexican cheese. 

I was somewhat surprised that the dessert Detroit style pizza crust did rise in the oven.  I thought the blueberry peach dessert pizza was very good.

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« Reply #2038 on: September 07, 2013, 12:03:00 PM »
This pizza almost reminded me of a cake instead of a pizza.  I also thought the strudel might stick to the steel pan in the bake but it did not.

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« Reply #2039 on: September 07, 2013, 12:05:03 PM »
The bottom crust didn't brown as much either and was softer than usual. 

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