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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #220 on: February 02, 2014, 05:25:39 PM »
Hey Tom and others, thanks first of all for the thread and research.

I tend to lean toward a simple, canned/peeled whole tomato sauce, with the tomatoes usually removed from the puree for milling, and then I discard the puree (unless the puree tastes sweet and clean to me, and doesn't seem too watery).

However, as I try to up my pizza game in my sad, normal home oven, I have been going over as many of the threads here as I can.  I also noticed on Jeff Varasano's lovingly written page(http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm)  that he will occasionally rinse his canned tomatoes to cleanse them of the bitter acid and thereby increase the overall sweetness.

Do any of you guys do that?  Any luck with it?  And if so, do you mind explaining the process? I admit I am slightly confused by his description.  I imagine he takes the tomatoes and discards the puree.  He puts the whole tomatoes in a fine mesh strainer, discarding whatever liquid drains from the tomatoes.  Then he pours fresh water on top of the tomatoes, doing this two or three times until the water that comes through the strainer is no longer bitter?

But won't the tomatoes lose their flavor if he keeps dumping water on them?

Anyway, interesting thread.  Thanks.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #221 on: February 10, 2014, 10:40:00 AM »
Some people simmer the tomatoes and some people use them uncooked-What's the best method? Also, Blended or hand crushed? Add stuff, don"t add stuff?
What's the best course of action?
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #222 on: February 10, 2014, 10:51:51 AM »
Some people simmer the tomatoes and some people use them uncooked-What's the best method? Also, Blended or hand crushed? Add stuff, don"t add stuff?
What's the best course of action?
Thanks!
you will find most people on here do a no cook sauce. I use whole tomatos (canned) with a can of tomato paste. Fennel seed basil and oregano pepper and salt.
Depends on the type of pizza you want. NP pizza just adds salt.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #223 on: February 24, 2014, 11:21:59 PM »
This recipe borrows from November's microwave extraction concept and a basic Neapolitan-style pizza sauce and it's the tastiest one I've ever made.

Here's my recipe:

28 oz can Wal Mart crushed tomatoes or equivalent
¼ tsp fresh ground black pepper
½ tsp salt
1 tsp oregano
1 TB of olive oil
1/2 clove garlic or ½ of a Dorot frozen garlic cube or ¼ tsp garlic powder
½ tsp ground fennel (optional)

Put the olive oil and all the spices into a small microwave-safe container such as a ramekin or a coffee cup.  Ensure that all the spices are wet from being covered in olive oil.  Microwave the mixture for 30 seconds at 50% power.   

Pour the oil/spice mix into a container with the tomatoes.  Close the container and shake the heck out of it.  It is ready to serve immediately,  but it is better if refrigerated overnight.  Apply to pizza when sauce has reached room temperature.


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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #224 on: March 13, 2014, 01:47:25 AM »
I had a margarita pizza at a Pizzeria that make an Authentic Margherita Pizza.  Love it!!!   i asked if I could purchase a can of the tomatoes that they use in the Pomodoro sauce. He gave me two cans of their tomatoes. The can on the right is ground up very fine and they only add salt to it to make a true Pomodoro sauce. The pizza was thin and amazing. A pizza that you had to eat on the spot as it does not travel well. Can wait to try these at home. However, i will have a very hard time finding these tomatoes again.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #225 on: March 13, 2014, 06:42:49 AM »
the guys pulling a Paulie G. and taking the labels off! :-D
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #227 on: March 13, 2014, 09:57:59 AM »
I opened the box while there. There were no labels on the cans and all the cans have printing on the top. They are not trying to hide any secrets. They just make great pizza.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #228 on: March 13, 2014, 10:27:41 AM »
It seems most do not like to cook their tomato sauce, what I like to do is drain the tomatoes with a strainer and reduce the 'juice' by about half, add seasoning if I'm in the mood, allow it to cool and mix back into the tomatoes.  This concentrates the flavors without cooking the tomatoes.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #229 on: March 24, 2014, 11:29:54 AM »
Not to take away from the theme of this thread, but I saw these in the store yesterday and bought a can of each for fun. Has anyone tried either of these jars of Pizza sauce? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2014, 01:44:38 AM »
i opened both jars tonight to try a big spoonful of each, straight out of the jars. Then, I used both jars in a spaghetti sauce.

As for pizza sauce,  you could get by with them, but just in a pinch. The Classico traditional Pizza Sauce was just OK, and the Prego pizza sauce, only reminded me of spaghetti sauce.  I thought it would be the other way around since i love Prego Sauce in spaghetti??

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #231 on: December 19, 2014, 01:18:43 AM »
I was marketing a Pizzeria today. I noticed their choice of Valoroso Tomatoes to use for their pizza sauce. I purchased a can to try it at home. I have used and still have a few cans of Alta Cucina Tomatoes. Both are made by Stanislaus Foods in CA.   In a conversation with Stanislaus, they said the Alta Cucina is more like a delicate San Marzano Tomato and the Valoroso are more rubust and firmer.

Does anyone have a preference between the two? Also, this pizzeria crushes the tomatoes and then adds just a little bit of salt to the sauce after it has covered the pressed out pizza dough. Also, they make a really great tasting pizza from a wood fire oven.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #232 on: February 22, 2015, 08:53:10 PM »
Pass a #10 can of peeled tomatoes through a food mill + 1 tsp of each of these (good quality sea salt, coarse black pepper, fresh basil).  Do not cook it.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #233 on: February 25, 2015, 02:16:07 AM »
Pass a #10 can of peeled tomatoes through a food mill + 1 tsp of each of these (good quality sea salt, coarse black pepper, fresh basil).  Do not cook it.

Thank you. I will give it a try as well.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #234 on: February 25, 2015, 02:17:15 AM »
This recipe borrows from November's microwave extraction concept and a basic Neapolitan-style pizza sauce and it's the tastiest one I've ever made.

Here's my recipe:

28 oz can Wal Mart crushed tomatoes or equivalent
tsp fresh ground black pepper
tsp salt
1 tsp oregano
1 TB of olive oil
1/2 clove garlic or of a Dorot frozen garlic cube or tsp garlic powder
tsp ground fennel (optional)

Put the olive oil and all the spices into a small microwave-safe container such as a ramekin or a coffee cup.  Ensure that all the spices are wet from being covered in olive oil.  Microwave the mixture for 30 seconds at 50% power.   

Pour the oil/spice mix into a container with the tomatoes.  Close the container and shake the heck out of it.  It is ready to serve immediately,  but it is better if refrigerated overnight.  Apply to pizza when sauce has reached room temperature.

I am just curious???

What does the fennel seed do for the sauce flavor?

Also, why no Basil? Thanks for the reply.

TomN
« Last Edit: February 25, 2015, 02:21:06 AM by TomN »

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #235 on: February 25, 2015, 09:18:40 AM »
Fennel is often used in Italian sausage; it amps up the overall savoriness without making it salty.  It's also wonderfully aromatic.

I like fresh basil on top of the pizza,  but I found that frozen basil cubes in the sauce muted the other ingredients I put into it.  I'm sure that fresh basil in the sauce added directly would be a lot more subtle.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #236 on: February 25, 2015, 10:00:29 AM »
Thank you. Also, I forgot to ask, do you ever add sugar at times?

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #237 on: February 25, 2015, 11:16:03 AM »
Also, why no Basil? Thanks for the reply.

I've found that I literally can't stand pizza sauce without basil. I've noticed that all cans of WP tomatoes w/basil leaf don't actually have a basil leaf. When I open a can of WP tomatoes and take a taste, I can tell with almost 100% accuracy if there will be a leaf in the can. When I was canning tomatoes from the garden for sauce last year, I forgot to put basil in the first batch, and they really suffered.

I've found that when I get a can without a leaf, I can take a couple spoonfuls of the sauce, add a fresh leaf, nuke it for a few seconds until it starts to boil, and then add the basil-infused bit back to the whole - kind of a modified MAE method. It works really well.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #238 on: February 25, 2015, 04:12:00 PM »
I very rarely add sugar.  I've had some less than stellar tomatoes (TJ whole plum) that needed it to mask the tinny taste, but otherwise, no
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #239 on: March 12, 2015, 12:53:34 AM »
I was able to get a can of this Spicy Pizza Sauce to try in my home oven. While it is amazing sauce at the Pizzeria that uses a high heated wood fire oven, it did not perform as well in my home oven. I know that cheese can change the taste of the pizza dramatically, but it did use a high quality whole milk cheese. I am wondering if the high heat of the wood fire oven changes the taste of the sauce as well? I am very surprised by this. I really thought this sauce would taste better than it did.

I welcome any thoughts on this. Also, the Pizzeria uses Bacio cheese on their pizza. (which I did not have at home) Perhaps the combination of the two, along with the high heat quick bake, makes the difference???
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