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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2013, 12:19:07 AM »
I am really enjoying this book. It is worth adding to your Pizza collection because it contains a wealth of knowledge, detail by detail.


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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2013, 08:12:13 AM »
Tom, there are those of us who feel differently  :)

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2013, 08:58:03 AM »
I wasn't sure if anyone answered the Stanislaus can ingredient question but I have 2 cans at the house now.... Tomato Magic and 7/11's.... Here are the ingredient listings for both...

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2013, 09:05:46 AM »
Escalon products (Stanislaus' largest competitor) do not contain citric acid. For instance, Escalon 6 in 1 tomatoes contain only crushed tomatoes and salt.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2013, 11:00:17 AM »
Escalon products (Stanislaus' largest competitor) do not contain citric acid. For instance, Escalon 6 in 1 tomatoes contain only crushed tomatoes and salt.

Steve,

As noted at Reply 58 at http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,6633.msg160409/topicseen.html#msg160409, a broker specializing in canned tomato products (among other items) once told me that all canned tomatoes contain citric acid, either naturally-occurring or added. In recent years, Stanislaus had changed its ingredients listing to emphasize the "naturally derived" citric acid aspect of its canned tomatoes. See, for example, the ingredients list for their 7/11 Ground Tomatoes: http://www.stanislausfoodproducts.com/_pdfs/7-11-Ground-Tomatoes.pdf.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2013, 11:06:33 AM »
I stand corrected. Thanks, Peter.  :chef:

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2013, 11:46:04 AM »
Tom, there are those of us who feel differently  :)

Scott,

When you say you feel differently, are you referring to the book itself as a whole or are you referring to this individual recipe? For the record, i like many different sauce recipes that I have tried. However, this recipe of Peter Reinhart's is a very good and classic recipe if someone handed you a can of tomatoes and said, make some pizza sauce for me. I started this thread in hopes to see how other people make sauce. What recipes do they enjoy?  Feel free to post your favorite sauce recipe.

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« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2013, 01:06:55 PM »
Tom, the link I posted goes into tremendous detail regarding my thoughts on both the sauce and the book. The Cliff notes– I'm not a fan of either.  Reinhart is a talented writer, but American Pie is riddled with so much misinformation that it should be avoided like the plague.

I don't post my sauce recipe because I don't really believe in the concept of sauce recipes. If you start off with a good tomato, you really shouldn't need much more than that. Salt, and, if the tomato is tart, it might need a little sugar. Garlic, oregano and basil (fresh, never dried) are nice, but only in very small quantities– nothing that would ever detract from the taste of the tomato. Besides sticking to small amounts, these optional ingredients have very distinctive flavors, and can easily be adjusted to taste. In addition, these additions should be tailored to the specific tomato. An approach that works for one brand of tomatoes most likely won't work for another brand.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2013, 01:50:37 PM »
Scott123 and I have talked before about some different brands of tomatoes, each individual has to search out the product which best suits your own taste. One thing I really don't care for is when they package basil in with the tomatoes, to my taste the basil overwhelms the tomatoes in many instances. Many threads on the forum talk about different brands of tomatoes, find the ones YOU like best.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2013, 01:02:30 AM »
Scott,

Can you post your sauce recipe anyhow? I just want to see what you like. I understand that it not to be declared as the "Correct" sauce.  However, I just want to try your personal choice for a sauce recipe on my pizza. (measurements you use?)  I appreciate your willingness to share it and  I am sure there are others that appreciate the variety of sauces and would like to know yours as well.  We are learn from each other on this forum. Thank you.

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If you look at my thread. "using beer instead of water", I list beers that have turned out good dough, and some are my personal choices to use, yet there is a whole world of different beers to try. Expensive and not expensive beers. Limited beers, and plentiful, easy to find beers. I list them to help others enjoy their dough making, not to say i have found the only beer to use.  The same is true with sauce recipes. Thank again. I look forward to your sauce recipe.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2013, 12:55:00 AM »
Had a MARGHERITA pizza today in a new Neapolitan Style pizzeria that is just opening up.  The pizza tasted FANTASTIC and it did not appear that they add much to the sauce, other than some sea salt, and some olive oil, but i could be wrong.  Also, the sauce did not seem to get watery like mine does when i try to make sauce using SM Tomatoes from  the can.

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Any thoughts on what to add to the tomatoes???


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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2013, 12:03:39 PM »
Here is a link to the Stanislaus Foods Recipe for their version of a Pizza Margherita.

I think it is worth looking at and perhaps adding to your recipe files/book.

TomN

http://www.stanislausfoodproducts.com/family-recipes/view-recipe/182


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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2013, 03:18:37 PM »
My sauce recipe varies depending on the tomatoes I'm using.  My general rule is the better the quality of tomatoes, the less I add to them. 

I prefer to start off using strained tomatoes from a jar (no tin can taste, no BPA) because I like the consistency and it saves time having to de-seed and puree tomatoes manually.   Otherwise I throw them into a mini food processor and blend away.

Then I taste the tomato puree itself.  If the tomatoes taste good, I don't add much except salt and a little pepper, and a bit of dried basil and dried oregano crushed by hand.  Sometimes the tomatoes are a bit acidic so I'll add a pinch of sugar to it.  If the tomatoes are lacking or if I want a more robust sauce, I'll go ahead and along with the sugar, add in some garlic and onion powder to the sauce as well. 

I like to marinate the sauce for an hour or so and bring it to room temperature before baking.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2013, 01:26:01 PM »
Can anyone address the subject of how to remove the water from the sauce made with crushed tomatoes. I notice it at the edges of my baked pizza, only when I use fresh crushed SM tomatoes from the can. I am sure this is not a new subject, but I can't find a link or comments.  I am not sure if I am doing the straining correctly or if I need to let the sauce set in the fridge more before using, etc..??? I am asking this because i will be opening up the #10 can of SM tomatoes that I picked up the other day at the new Pizzeria in my above posting. Thank you.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2013, 01:59:36 PM »
Can anyone address the subject of how to remove the water from the sauce made with crushed tomatoes. I notice it at the edges of my baked pizza, only when I use fresh crushed SM tomatoes from the can. I am sure this is not a new subject, but I can't find a link or comments.  I am not sure if I am doing the straining correctly or if I need to let the sauce set in the fridge more before using, etc..??? I am asking this because i will be opening up the #10 can of SM tomatoes that I picked up the other day at the new Pizzeria in my above posting. Thank you.

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I just use a fine mesh strainer like this one Tom.    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004RDE1/?tag=pizzamaking-20

I use that on any type of tomatoes. If you are specifically talking about whole canned...then I do the lightly squish thing with all of them in a bowl. Then just dump that into a strainer...you can get them nearly bone dry if you want using the strainer.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2013, 02:19:25 PM »
Another option would be to leave the cut metal top in the can after opening and pushing down on it while inverting.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2013, 04:18:57 PM »
Thank you for the replies. I only notice the water when the pizza is baked. It is a fine circle of water near the crust. Sometimes I will take a napkin to remove it from the pizza. This only happens when I use a can of SM whole peeled tomatoes. Hope this straining technique helps. Thanks again.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2013, 06:43:14 PM »
IMO, on a traditional Neapolitan Margherita, the sauce should look wet across the entire surface of the pie. At risk of being a pizza snob, I would call a pie that did not have the shine of moisture on the sauce flawed. I am also of the opinion that for a traditional Neapolitan Margherita, one should not add anything to the crushed tomato besides salt and perhaps a little sugar. Doing so kills the balance of the pie.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2013, 07:36:58 PM »
Are you making NP pie's Tom?
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2013, 02:22:06 AM »
I have not tried to make any yet Bob. However, this pizzeria's NP pizza did have a great taste, unlike some of the other NP pizzas that had a bland taste to them. No offense intended here towards any NP lovers.

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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2013, 12:15:18 AM »
TXCraig1,

I visited the Pizzeria again today and ordered another traditional  Neapolitan Margherita Pizza. I asked the person making my pizza about what goes into the sauce. He stated that it is just the tomatoes crushed very fine and a little salt, nothing else. Of course fresh Mozzarella and Basil. Also, a swirl of olive oil before cooking it.  The dough cooks up Paper thin and you have to fold it in order to pick up the piece to eat it.

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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2013, 12:16:10 AM »
I loved having this Pizza all to myself.

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It's a guilty pleasure   ;D
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2013, 09:26:14 AM »
One of my personal favorites is to use slices of fresh tomato in place of sauce on my pizzas, but when ripe, fresh tomato is not available I like to use whole pealed tomato that is first drained well, and then cut or torn into pieces and allowed to drain once again. I don't add anything to the tomatoes, but rather put a very light application of olive oil on the pizza skin, then add sliced or diced garlic followed by several leaves of fresh basil torn into pieces, a little white pepper, and then I add the tomato pieces, followed by the cheese and desired toppings. I think the large pieces of tomato add a lot to the flavor and texture of the pizza as well as providing something of a rustic appearance. I don't add salt to as I believe the cheese provides all the salt needed.
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