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Offline dmcavanagh

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2013, 02:37:17 PM »
I've made Reinhart's sauce recipe and didn't really care for it, and that was the same conclusion reached by a local food critic in a newspaper column in a local paper. Something about the wine vinegar was a real turn off to me. I still don't think you can beat a good can of crushed tomatoes seasoned conservatively and spooned right on you dough, no need to get too fancy or over think it.


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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2013, 02:53:36 PM »
This is great if every tomato is the same, every herb and spice is the same, and everyones taste is the same.  They aren't.  I personally see a glaring flaw in the fact that no sugar is included.  Tomatoes are a natural product, and as such even the best brands of quality tomatoes will have variation.  You can use the same brand 20 times with no sugar needed and on time 21 open a can that tastes like an acid bomb went off inside of it.  In that case you have to balance it with some sugar.

As I have stated elsewhere, I truly feel a process is worth far more then a recipe when it comes to sauce.  Use quality whole tomatoes if you want a thinner sauce, quality crushed tomatoes if you want a thicker sauce.  Salt to taste.  Balance the acidity with sugar by taste.  Season by taste.  I personally like black pepper, garlic and oregano in my new york sauce and for my taste I want it to be like a flavor explosion in my mouth. 

I purchase 7-11 at the Costco Business Center and the # 10 can is often too big to experiment with. I often do my pizza sauce experimenting when i make a large amount of chilli. That way,  I do not have to freeze the crush tomatoes and can use the right away. Sometimes I will buy Cento San Marzano tomatoes in the smaller can because the size is just right for home use. The recipe from Peter Reinhart's book, "American Pie", page 142, is great for this. (A book everyone should have in their pizza library. I appreciate that Peter Reinhart is willing to share his recipes and walk you through it step by step)

Crushed Tomato Sauce
Makes 4 cups

1 can (28 ounces) crushed tomatoes
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 teaspoon dried basil or 2 tablespoons minced fresh basil (optional)
1 teaspoon dried oregano or 1 tablespoon minced fresh basil (optional)
1 tablespoon granulated garlic powder, or 5 cloves fresh garlic, minced or pressed
2 tablespoons red wine vinegar or freshly squeezed lemon juice, or a combination
1 teaspoon salt, or to taste

In a bowl, stir together all the ingredients, starting with 1/2 teaspoon salt and adding more to taste. Store in a tightly covered container in the refrigerator for up to 1 week.


One of my other favorite Pizza Sauces is Pizzaiolo by Stanislaus. It also comes in a #10 can, and I have found that i can freeze it without losing any of the great taste.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »
Found this Italian Store in the Seattle Public market.  Looks like I have some San Marzano Tomato experimenting to do.
Tom,

The Strianese SM tomatoes on the bottom two shelves have been good tomatoes in the past. I don't know if Dom Demarco at Di Fara's still uses them but he was a big user for many years.

The double-stacked cans on the fourth shelf from the bottom with white labels with tomatoes around the can are a SM variety grown in the U.S.. From their positioning, they must have the highest profit margins or else Public is getting better slotting fees from the canner/wholesaler of those tomatoes.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2013, 05:09:31 PM »
Those are from a packer called Simpson, US grown strain of SM tomatoes, usually rather high priced. They were recently listed in the Saveur magazines May issue which featured pizza. They said of them. "lightly salted...with a bright flavor"

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2013, 07:27:41 PM »
I cut the photo in half so you can see the can closer - here is the top part

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #85 on: April 21, 2013, 07:28:02 PM »
here is the bottom

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« Reply #86 on: April 21, 2013, 07:29:30 PM »
On the top shelf, in the middle, there is tomato paste in what appears to look like tooth paste tubes??? Anyone seen or used these before???

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2013, 07:41:47 PM »
On the top shelf, in the middle, there is tomato paste in what appears to look like tooth paste tubes??? Anyone seen or used these before???
I have used them when I only need a small amount of paste so as to not open an entire can and wast most of it.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2013, 07:48:00 PM »
Are my eyes deceiving me or does the photo in post #84 show Bianco DiNapoli tomatoes in the upper right above the San Marzano Brand?
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #89 on: April 21, 2013, 07:58:06 PM »
Jeff,

I believe you're right: http://biancodinapoli.com/

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #90 on: April 22, 2013, 12:15:32 AM »
Are my eyes deceiving me or does the photo in post #84 show Bianco DiNapoli tomatoes in the upper right above the San Marzano Brand?

Is that a good brand of tomatoes?? Tell me about them??? Thanks

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2013, 01:48:52 AM »
Jeff,

I believe you're right: http://biancodinapoli.com/

Peter


Looked at the website. I will pick up a few cans for fun the next time i am downtown. Which is better the light blue can or the yellow color can???

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2013, 09:31:36 AM »
Looked at the website. I will pick up a few cans for fun the next time i am downtown. Which is better the light blue can or the yellow color can???

The tomatoes on the other edge of the same shelf are packed by Rob DiNapoli who is the DiNapoli of Bianco DiNapoli.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2013, 09:40:31 AM »
My home made sauce

crushed tomaotes
add origano
add pepper
pinch of baking pwdr
pinch of msg
salt
red chilli pwdr
garlic crushed
tbsp of sugar
 cook in oil for 20 min and allow to cool

dheeraj
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2013, 11:39:22 AM »
dheeraj,

Thanks for sharing your recipe.

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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #95 on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:27 AM »
Bought two pizzas from the new pizzeria in my area that makes a true NP wood fire oven pizza. The tomatoes are very good that they use. I was surprise to learn that what they said was very true, about not eating the pizza at the restaurant. While i knew that it would not be exactly the same, it was very different than I expected.

We ate the pizzas, but they did not travel well, even though i was only 20 minutes away and speeding home in the car. Is this true with wood fire oven pizza? Most baked pizzas are just fine for taking home. Perhaps it is because the dough is so very thin or because this is a delicate pizza?  Next time, i will just eat at the Pizzeria.  Any comments? Thanks.

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I prepaid my order and waited by the oven for the pizzas too be boxed. Then, made a dash home to everyone with the pizzas in my car.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #96 on: April 23, 2013, 06:39:52 AM »
We ate the pizzas, but they did not travel well, even though i was only 20 minutes away and speeding home in the car. Is this true with wood fire oven pizza? Most baked pizzas are just fine for taking home. Perhaps it is because the dough is so very thin or because this is a delicate pizza?  Next time, i will just eat at the Pizzeria.  Any comments? Thanks.

It's not the oven per-se but rather Neapolitan pizza itself.

NP is about a delicate, perfect balance. You may have seen some of us who favor NP write, "pizza is not bread." You cannot achieve "delicate" on top of a loaf of bread that happens to look like a pizza and travels well to your house any more than you achieve "balance" by weighing down a sauce that goes on top of a delicate pie with all sorts of herbs and spices.
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #97 on: April 23, 2013, 09:28:08 AM »
.... At risk of being a pizza snob....

These days, you know that is a helluva risk. :drool:
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2013, 10:05:43 PM »
I have used a few different recipes and then tweaked it over time to my taste. Here is my recipe.

1 can of San Marzano tomatoes
1 clove of crushed and finely minced fresh garlic
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
1 tsp dried oregano
1/2 tsp basil
1/2 tsp sugar OR 1 small or 1/2 large finely minced onion
1/4 tsp fresh ground black pepper
(optional) salt to taste
(optional) pinch of red pepper flakes

Simmer for at least 15 minutes
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Re: If I gave you a can of Peeled Tomatoes? How would you make pizza sauce?
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2013, 10:48:07 PM »
I have used a few different recipes and then tweaked it over time to my taste. Here is my recipe.

1 can of San Marzano tomatoes
1 clove of crushed and finely minced fresh garlic
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
1 tsp dried oregano
1/2 tsp basil
1/2 tsp sugar OR 1 small or 1/2 large finely minced onion
1/4 tsp fresh ground black pepper
(optional) salt to taste
(optional) pinch of red pepper flakes

Simmer for at least 15 minutes
Hmmm, that is a very ambitious sauce there frog.  :chef:
What type of pizza do you use your sauce on?
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