Go to Jeff's pizza recipe website right now. There is a video posted right at the very top. In it, he hems and haws, but he says with respect to Patsy's (at 3:00) "I now know that they don't use a sourdough culture in their dough."
But he bleeps out 'Patsy's'! And he goes on to say that the sourdough culture 'came from' a non sourdough dough? What?!
*shaking my head*
Finally admitting the truth, even in a convoluted manner, amounts for something, but his recipe page is unchanged, and that completely makes the erroneous connection between NY style and starter, so, until he changes that, the wild goose chase continues.
FWIW, I did get a huge kick out the interviewer's general "cut the BS, Jeff" attitude. The fact that he has friends that don't put up with his crap is encouraging.