Thanks for the links, Yes , I tried Goggle, (thats how I found this site) and the place I found said I had to buy $100.00 minimum. The other place I tried was in Florida and the phone connection was so bad I couldn't even understand him.
I have found one other promising place that has a removable bottoms , but being in Hawaii and they are on the east coast (6 hours difference) time wise makes it rough and they are closed Saturday.
Most I see now are Cheesecake pan, I really don't care what they are called. it's just a matter of time, I'm getting close
The other place (http://www.fatdaddios.com/catalog/round-1-4
) They come is a case of 6 pans. just like the other. Grrrrr LOL
I'll keep looking Thanks for the info.