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Offline csafranek

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Primavera 70
« on: January 22, 2013, 12:53:40 PM »
So I wait... not very well. My Forno Bravo Primavera 70 is being delivered sometime today around 12-2.  I am very excited and will post pictures and more as the day goes.  It is a warm 18 degrees here in Kansas City, Missouri so I can't wait to set this up in the cold.  LOL.  Hey I don't care if it is negative 18 degrees I am just excited to get going.  As I said I will post more later and keep you all updated in my process.  I just want to thank everyone here for their opinions and advice in everything.  I hope to someday help those who come behind me.


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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 02:38:56 PM »
It's here.


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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 02:42:14 PM »
It's 17 here in New Jersey.  My extra layers provide me with considerable immunity against the cold, but I don't think I'd go outside to set up an oven in this. This is brutal.

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 03:16:36 PM »
It's here.

I remember standing over the crate after the driver dropped it in my driveway. I had no idea that it was going to dominate my life going forward. Here is my first post about the oven on the forum almost 3 years ago (and an embarrassingly pale pie with GIGANTIC mozz):

http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php/topic,10914.msg97916.html

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 07:34:05 PM »
Well my oven is in place! I tried to post pictures but the files are too large.

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 07:36:40 PM »
First let me say the truck driver was awesome!!! He helped me move the oven into my backyard and on my patio while in the box. Then a friend of mine came over and used a Toro Dingo to lift it up and on the frame. Awesome!!

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 08:16:38 PM »
Well my oven is in place! I tried to post pictures but the files are too large.

Google "picture resizer"
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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 08:46:11 PM »
The ovens arrival

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 08:47:54 PM »
unboxing
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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 08:50:39 PM »
Machine to move the oven

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 08:51:13 PM »
Installing stand

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 08:51:38 PM »
Here it is!!!

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 09:15:22 PM »
Awesome Chad! best  wishes !
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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 09:55:52 PM »
That looks good Chad. I look forward to seeing some pictures of your pizza.
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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 09:21:43 AM »
Day 1 fire

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 09:22:45 AM »
Day 2 fire

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2013, 09:24:12 AM »
It is COLD here!  9 Degrees.  Nothing is going to stop me from curing this oven though!  :)


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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2013, 09:21:42 PM »
Apologize if this sounds stupid
Am seriously thinking of the 70 to scratch my WFO itch. So even the turnkey ovens need curing?
Obviously not a big deal, just curious
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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 10:11:45 PM »
very nice! looking forward to seeing your pizza cumming from the 70.

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2013, 10:42:08 PM »
Yes even these ovens need to be cured. Anywhere from 5-7 days. It is pure torture!! Ask anything you want. I am just starting out but this forum is a wealth of information!

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 05:20:53 AM »
Yes even these ovens need to be cured. Anywhere from 5-7 days. It is pure torture!! Ask anything you want. I am just starting out but this forum is a wealth of information!

Congratulations!  I remember those curing days were extremely frustrating! I was extremely careful with curing and decided to cure the oven for 2 weeks.  I spent the first week, if memory serves me well, in the 200F-400Fs.  A lot of water came out of the bottom of the Andiamo 70 (where the sheet metal attached to the stand/frame)! It must have been well over a gallon!  As the oven cures, the temperature kinda goes up by itself even using the same amount of wood during the first few days.

As many have said, the oven does get better the more you use it. 

Exciting times :)


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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 11:23:16 AM »
As a fellow newcomer I would recommend HIGHLY that you find a nice place to keep all of your wood completely DRY and OFF THE GROUND.

I thought for a long time that the quality/type of wood being used was a variable that "didn't matter too much", because all of the wood that had been delivered to me previously (3 cords) seemed to be about the same in terms of BTU's --- allowing me to get the fire going and up to 900 degrees at will. And it came from three different suppliers.

Then I got my latest 1/2 cord. Thought I was being "smart" by getting it from the same guy who supplies our local Carraba's. Wood was beautiful and had a great smell to it (Red Oak). Seemed dry enough until I split it for kindling and found the interior to be not damp, but WET!!!! Ugh....

The stuff will burn, but there is a 200+ degree deficit in terms of how hot it will get and this cannot be overcome by firing time (6+ hours still unable to raise temp above 650). How do I know its the wood? Cuz I go out and get a packet of firewood at the local Harris Teeter ($5.99/bundle that lasts 1 hour) and its back up to 900+ degrees withing 30 minutes.

So.... as you are pondering all of the OTHER variables in your quest for great pizza, DON'T FORGET THE WOOD VARIABLE!!!!

Best of luck and congrats. My WFO has changed my wife! Errr, sorry, my life! ;D

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2013, 01:14:41 PM »
Hi Michael,

No stupid question  here, we are all learning.
Yes, every oven need to be cured. It is especially more impotent when the oven is a turnkey because the enclosure that prevents the moisture from entering the oven also prevent the moisture, already inside, from escaping. The moisture has to escape through the chimney pipe and door and it takes much longer. From a 3 to 4 days curing fires when you install your own oven, it goes to 7 to 10 days curing fires with a turnkey.
When I build a turnkey, I place a small electric heater in the oven to remove a good part of the existing moisture. Picture bellow.
That way when the client receives the oven there is not as much water coming out and it helps ensuring the oven will last longer.

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2013, 01:15:56 PM »
Still curing the oven. I can literally hear the curing process burning the water out of the oven. Lol! At least that's what I think I hear! :-D

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Re: Primavera 70
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2013, 01:51:42 PM »
throw a leftover slice in there ! and now your cooking  :-D
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