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Offline csafranek

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firewood red oak vs white oak
« on: January 24, 2013, 09:43:46 AM »
Is it ok to use red vs white or the combo?  Thank you


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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 10:06:02 AM »
Either is fine as is just about any hardwood or fruit wood.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 10:07:27 AM »
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 10:56:07 AM »
Both burn great for any application requiring a hardwood fire.

IMO, Red Oak can be "stringy" when trying to split it.
The splits will cling to each other and you must pull them apart

Many Oaks can be this way, though.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 11:22:30 AM »
Both burn great for any application requiring a hardwood fire.

IMO, Red Oak can be "stringy" when trying to split it.
The splits will cling to each other and you must pull them apart

Many Oaks can be this way, though.


If you think oak is stringy and tough to split, try hickory.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 01:03:14 PM »
Oak and Ash are both great woods for use in ovens.  They are very dense woods, so they burn longer for more stable temperatures.

Don't use splits of oak when trying to get the fire going, though.  Use another, lighter wood to generate your coal bed, then add the hardwood splits.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 04:00:14 PM »
If you think oak is stringy and tough to split, try hickory.

Oh, yeah...Got a free truckload of Shagbark Hickory once. I know now why it was free.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 07:02:41 PM »
red oak !!
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 07:20:30 PM »
White oak has more BTU/lb and BUT/cord not that the difference is particularly meaningful.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 12:30:27 AM »
rephrase - Hard and Dry! ;)
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 07:27:01 AM »
rephrase - Hard and Dry! ;)
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Definitely the most important.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 01:11:56 PM »
Red oak is tradionally used for Santa Maria style BBQ, in this area, since it imparts a positive flavor to the tri-tip. I use white oak since the flavor in a wfo is negligable. When it comes down to it, price may be the deciding factor. The white oak here is cheaper since more folks use the red for BBQ.

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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 02:06:05 PM »
Red oak is tradionally used for Santa Maria style BBQ, in this area, since it imparts a positive flavor to the tri-tip. I use white oak since the flavor in a wfo is negligable. When it comes down to it, price may be the deciding factor. The white oak here is cheaper since more folks use the red for BBQ.

If you're running your WFO at or near Neapolitan temperatures, the flavor imparted by any type of wood is zero.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 04:04:16 PM »
Last look at a massive maple about to be taken down on the side of my house. Too dangerous to keep standing. Anyone know how much wood this might produce, and how long it will take to cure?

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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 04:19:24 PM »
Last look at a massive maple about to be taken down on the side of my house. Too dangerous to keep standing. Anyone know how much wood this might produce, and how long it will take to cure?

John

A lot and 2 years.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 05:24:51 PM »
That's a LOT of firewood.  Enough to fuel a commercial WFO for a few months at least.

Take it down, split it, cross-stack it off the ground and under cover, and it will last you a really long time.  You may want to build a lean-to style woodshed - beats looking at hundreds of feet of tarp in your backyard for years.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 05:55:33 PM »
Last look at a massive maple about to be taken down on the side of my house. Too dangerous to keep standing. Anyone know how much wood this might produce, and how long it will take to cure?

John

I had a similarly sized silver maple taken down from the side of my house too about 2 years ago.  The tree company said it would make at least 5 full cords of wood.  I recently had a good sized branch (5 inches cross section) fall from the other maple tree in the backyard.  I cut it into firewood pieces and slowly kiln-dried them inside the Andiamo 70.  I put them in when the floor was 150F-250F degrees and just left them until the oven cooled down.  A couple of days later their moisture content dropped to 14% and was good enough to use for pizza temps.  


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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 06:04:28 PM »
...5 full cords of wood.

Yikes. I don't think I have the space for that. I may need to give a few cords away.

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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 09:53:31 PM »
Craig,
Whats the Btu on the Maple vs the red Oak ?
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2013, 10:12:20 AM »
Anybody knows the BTU of Mahogany? I been searching Google for months looking for this info to no avail.

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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2013, 10:44:07 AM »
Craig,
Whats the Btu on the Maple vs the red Oak ?
thanks!

They are about the same ~23-24MBTU/cord or 6.2-6.4KBTU/lb

The oak is probably a little higher, but the difference is likely not significant.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2013, 12:12:25 PM »
Craig,
Whats the Btu on the Maple vs the red Oak ?
thanks!

It does kind of depend on the species of maple. Here's a chart I use for comparisons.

http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/howood.htm

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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 11:22:43 AM »
Not sure I agree with the chart, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

  In my experience, Beech and Maple are nowhere near Oak for length of burn.  Beech burns intensely but briefly without leaving much of a coal, Maple is somewhere in the middle, and Oak lasts a long time and crumbles into coal that lasts a long time too.

I use beech to start the fire, then oak splits and whole 6-8" diameter branch pcs to maintain it.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 12:29:56 PM »
Not sure I agree with the chart, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

  In my experience, Beech and Maple are nowhere near Oak for length of burn.  Beech burns intensely but briefly without leaving much of a coal, Maple is somewhere in the middle, and Oak lasts a long time and crumbles into coal that lasts a long time too.

Remember, a BTU is a measure of energy - not power (the rate at which energy is used). A lot of heat for a short amount of time could be the same amount of energy as a smaller amount of heat for a longer amount of time. That being said, some of the numbers on the chart look too low to me.
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Re: firewood red oak vs white oak
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 02:58:13 PM »
Not sure I agree with the chart, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

  In my experience, Beech and Maple are nowhere near Oak for length of burn.  Beech burns intensely but briefly without leaving much of a coal, Maple is somewhere in the middle, and Oak lasts a long time and crumbles into coal that lasts a long time too.

I use beech to start the fire, then oak splits and whole 6-8" diameter branch pcs to maintain it.

There are different BTU charts and they will give you different values. If you scroll down the page there is a link that explains how they came up with their numbers. Like I said, I only use these charts as comparisons between wood species. I wouldn't stake my life on the numbers.

There are also other charts that discuss the burning characteristics of different species as well.


 

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