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Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« on: April 03, 2013, 01:37:06 PM »
I'm growing three types of Calabrian chilies (or at least I think they are). One is round and two are long.

I planted the seeds about a month ago, and here is how they look today. All three look about the same. The two long varieties took about two and two and a half weeks to come up. The round took over three weeks. The temperature was cooler than it should have been, and I kept them outside anyway, so I'm sure that is why they took so long to germinate.

I plan to use some fresh and cure some with salt and vinegar.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 01:44:32 PM »
Nice! Are you planning to age the cured ones like tobasco?

I grew hot cherry peppers and Italian Roasters last year. I did a terrible job germinating and ended up with a small crop.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 01:46:55 PM »
Nice! Are you planning to age the cured ones like tobasco?


Probably not. I'd like to learn to duplicate the ones from Tutto Calabria.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 02:00:32 PM »
Probably not. I'd like to learn to duplicate the ones from Tutto Calabria.

Me too. That just reminded me of a cookbook I have "My Calabria" where they talk about preserving Sott' Oli (under oil). I believe foods are cooked in  straight vinegar with salt then covered in oil. I'll check later, but it may be a good resource either way. Totally forgot I had that book-lol.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 02:26:03 PM »
Me too. That just reminded me of a cookbook I have "My Calabria" where they talk about preserving Sott' Oli (under oil). I believe foods are cooked in  straight vinegar with salt then covered in oil. I'll check later, but it may be a good resource either way. Totally forgot I had that book-lol.

Thanks. Please post the directions here.

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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 03:10:57 PM »
Where's you get the seeds...I've been looking.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2013, 03:17:39 PM »
Where's you get the seeds...I've been looking.

Two came from www.growitalian.com

http://www.growitalian.com/pepper-picante-etna-97-109/
http://www.growitalian.com/pepper-piccante-calabrese-97-115/

The source of the 3rd has disappeared.  If they turn out to be any good, I'll collect some seeds to distribute to those interested next year.

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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 04:33:06 PM »
Count me in for seeds (if you're still willing to share!)  Good luck growing them this year, and hopefully then turn out well for you!

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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 04:58:49 PM »
Thanks. Please post the directions here.

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More of a method-
The vegetables are heavily salted and boiled in wine vinegar til tender. Drain really well, then cover completely with oil. Refrigerate.

Though used in Calabria for centuries, the book also says that this method of preservation is not addressed by the USDA in its literature on home preservation and a rep wouldnt comment on it. Also, USDA discourages keeping garlic under oil even with refrigeration.

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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 05:51:51 PM »
More of a method-
The vegetables are heavily salted and boiled in wine vinegar til tender. Drain really well, then cover completely with oil. Refrigerate.

Though used in Calabria for centuries, the book also says that this method of preservation is not addressed by the USDA in its literature on home preservation and a rep wouldnt comment on it. Also, USDA discourages keeping garlic under oil even with refrigeration.

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How long are they salted before boiling in vinegar?
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 06:35:58 PM »
How long are they salted before boiling in vinegar?

Varies based on vegetable. Eggplant and zucchini 12 hrs, mushrooms 1 hr. there i s no recipe for peppers. Im not sure how much moisture will draw out of a chili though. I would think of it like a dry brine and go 2-4 hrs if it were me.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 06:38:46 PM »
It's hard to imagine that would do anything to a whole chili?
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 06:39:46 PM »
I think I'll get some Thai chilies and experiment in the interim. I'm curious to hear other ideas to try if anyone has any.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2013, 06:44:25 PM »
Googling peperoncini or peppers sott'olio brings up some interesting results too. Maybe dissolve enough salt to heavily season the peppers in the vinegar?
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2013, 07:54:39 PM »
Craig,

Good luck with your Calabrian chilies this year!

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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2013, 09:52:59 PM »
....I'm curious to hear other ideas to try if anyone has any.

http://foodies.blogs.starnewsonline.com/21462/diy-fire-salt-cured-chile-peppers/

Very lame, no vinegar mentioned, but wth?
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2013, 09:05:03 AM »
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2013, 09:10:32 AM »
http://foodies.blogs.starnewsonline.com/21462/diy-fire-salt-cured-chile-peppers/

Very lame, no vinegar mentioned, but wth?

It does talk about adding vinegar to make a hot sauce. In any case, that's very different that what I have in mind for them. For one, I want whole peppers. Also, oil will be the main ingredient other than peppers.
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2013, 09:16:05 AM »
Googling peperoncini or peppers sott'olio brings up some interesting results too. Maybe dissolve enough salt to heavily season the peppers in the vinegar?

I think this is along the right path. Thanks!
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Re: Growing some Calabrian chilies this year
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2013, 09:32:29 AM »
... For one, I want whole peppers...

Then don't chop them up before packing them in salt. ???  I think the vinegar should be used to wash the salt off of the peppers, then to the oil they go. :drool:
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